1964 Penny Date Error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by They_Call_Me_Opa, Aug 2, 2022.

  1. They_Call_Me_Opa

    They_Call_Me_Opa New Member

    I came across this penny in my dad's collection and wonder what would cause the "4" in the date to be so deformed. Thoughts?
    BTW- I am new here, please be gentle. :happy: 1695_O.JPG
     
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  3. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    it's called "damage"
     
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  4. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    that is very common damage and happens on many dates. it is caused by the fingers of a roll crimping machine
     
  5. They_Call_Me_Opa

    They_Call_Me_Opa New Member

    Good info.
    I didn't think "damage" because it is isolated to the legend. Nothing on the rim, nor on the field surface.
    Thanks for the help
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's a nice example of it. We keep ours, I can see why your dad kept that one.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Damage, I reckon, but cool looking damage. I too can see why he might have kept it.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A 1964 is copper and copper is a soft metal. The 4 took a hit on the lower right side and that hit moved the raised metal, the 4, to where you currently see it. It’s known as PMD or post mint damage.

    Welcome to CT.
     
  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    As noted by our fellow enthusiasts, it is damage. If you coin roll hunt you will see this but not generally as clean. I suspect that the ‘hard’ object to burnish the material hovered slightly above the field and why you aren’t seeing damage there. Welcome to CT!
     
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  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's theorized these are caused by the mechanism that crimps the ends of the rolls as these coins are fitted in the rolls, so, e.g., they're rolling machine damage. How that theory explains why only the last digit is singled out for the damage is a little puzzling, I have to say...

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  11. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    some coin rolling machines can cause more (or less) damage.
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  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yes, I was looking for one of those pictures. I think that solves it, if you look at how the circle is going through that last digit. It would explain the angles of the damage, also, why the last digits are all slanted the same.
     
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  13. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    The nickname for it is 'sliced digit'
     
  14. They_Call_Me_Opa

    They_Call_Me_Opa New Member

    Your image is inline with my experience with crimper damage. Sad really
     
  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Well, if the part of the machine making contact with the coin is starting from the outer edge, I guess it makes sense that the outermost digit is the one that gets hit first. Those photos were very illustrative. I didn't know this was that common an occurrence.
     
  16. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    here's something obscure ..
    take a look at the Coin Cellophane Machine Sealer issues ==> https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wonder-what-caused-this.389797/
     
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    eddiespin Fast Eddie

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