1936 cent no trust

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jesse P, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. Jasonb

    Jasonb Member

    I think this was a postive exchange. I hope my comments conveyed as postively as they were meant to.

    I really enjoy this forum. It is a a group of coin lovers, like me and coin folks are the best in my book.
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Books help but its the field work that enables me to learn.

    I thought I'd have all my answers when I finally purchased the Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars but man was I surprised!

    I received a wealth of information which my uneducated coin experience had a difficult time digesting. I still, rarely refer to the book except on occasion.

    Coin varieties and minting errors are kind of a specialized field but both still require some knowledge about the coin and die making processes. As a matter of fact, it requires a little bit of knowledge about all coin handling processes and equipment both inside and outside of the US Mint.
  4. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I suggest individuals new to variety collecting start out searching for Lincoln cent RPMs graded XF or better. This narrows your search focus to a single device of a specific coin design. High grade Lincoln Cents are not very expensive and there is a plethora of different RPMs to look for in this series. Much of the knowledge base and experience you acquire looking for and identifying RPMs can be applied when searching for doubled dies.
  5. micheldura2

    micheldura2 Senior Member

    If you want respect earn respect by showing us what you are learning and "not what your not learning".

    I want to find that coin in the book not the coin that's not in the book!

    Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/t97914/#ixzz0ioXqalVD

    I think everyone can agree that you are knowledgeable in some areas...yet there are many of us that are not as learned as yourself, and you are so brash and bold that when you say something half intelligent...people are caught so off guard by your approach that they get nothing out of your posts. I really would suggest to you....and I am pretty experienced in the LIFE department....that if you do not like someone's post, then let it be...You have spent so much time writing long posts about what people are doing, rather than what is important...you might consider getting some books on how to "teach" and be a "leader"...most leaders and teachers do not approach their students in a manner thatleaves them defensive...You might consider taking some advice from some of the real winners on this site..there are many to pick from.

    Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one. - Marcus Aurelius

    Here are also some great tips on how to put your leadership skills to good use....:)

    Honest - Display sincerity, integrity, and candor in all your actions. Deceptive behavior will not inspire trust.
    Competent - Base your actions on reason and moral principles. Do not make decisions based on childlike emotional desires or feelings.
    Forward-looking - Set goals and have a vision of the future. The vision must be owned throughout the organization. Effective leaders envision what they want and how to get it. They habitually pick priorities stemming from their basic values.
    Inspiring - Display confidence in all that you do. By showing endurance in mental, physical, and spiritual stamina, you will inspire others to reach for new heights. Take charge when necessary.
    Intelligent - Read, study, and seek challenging assignments.
    Fair-minded - Show fair treatment to all people. Prejudice is the enemy of justice. Display empathy by being sensitive to the feelings, values, interests, and well-being of others.
    Broad-minded - Seek out diversity.
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  6. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    I appreciate the above suggestions but I think I'll pass on your thoughts in the first paragragh. The 10 tips on leadership are always good for everyone to remember though, if your into leadership and this is not.
    I am what I am and I comment like I comment. If you think this OP's random numerous posts suggestiong nothing, no questions and vast photos that are nothing then you may comment, I know I did. I am not hear to hold peoples hand and coddle them into feel good situations while they get absolutely no closer post by post to real learning. If they want to learn then learn - if they want to dick around then say so and do that.

    It matters very little whether are not I like a persons post or not - it does not matter whether you like my posts, that has nothing to do with any of this. What is important that people "learn to learn" if that's what they want or be honest enough to tell us they have no intention of learning and want to play around.

    I am not hear to lead anyone on anything. This site is not about that. It's about numismatic disscusions, there are no rules about leadership that I know of. We read posts and if we think we have something to add we do so.

    If I was charged with teaching people directly, or being paid for such a task it may be quite different how, or what I say and when, with what attitude or whatever. Even then I would not allow people to ask stupid questions or vague comments leading nowhere after a short period of time - I would not care so little about them and their attemps at learning to dissrespect them in that manner. That is killing with kindness and it's not something I do for anyone, the value of such it useless and stupid.

    There are tell-tell signs about people who do not really want to learn.
    Insisting when very new their coin is something when persons with knowlege have told them it's not and several times.
    Posting endless questions with vague descriptions and endless photos as if in the hope of more is better or trying to make a "silk purse out of a sows ear".
    Thinking they have something rare just because with no really good information before hand.

    If you have a problem with my posts that is your problem not mine - do as you wish. It matters very little to me, that's your cross to bare.
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Very interesting coin!!
  8. chip

    chip Novice collector

    This reply to the op seems to me to require a follow up question. what the heck in coins is a rolling machine, I know that their is a machine that rolls the planchets to the desired thickness, but does rolling machine damage mean a machine that rolls the coins into bank rolls? If so how does a machine that does that little job damage the motto on a cent? Thanks in advance for your indulgence of my noviceness.
  9. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    I'm not sure if the correct answer was ever posted...BUT... It is definitely post Mint damage. The coin was damaged in a coin wrapping/rolling machine and then continued to circulate. The machine causes damage in a circular pattern but it does not always damage the entire coin. Other examples like this are the cents that we see dated 1940 or 1941 with a damaged last digit in the date.

    The coin has no numismatic value since it is damaged. While it might be more interesting to take the explanations that do not say the coin is damaged, this one is damaged and that's about it:)

  10. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    A coin rolling machine is just that....it counts and wraps the coins mechanically. Bank wrapped rolls pass through counting/wrapping machines.
  11. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    I think the point is to teach the member what we think it is or might be. If you don't know, don't answer or say you don't know. DUH!

    IMO, it is post mint damage.
  12. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    I can agree with this post as well.
  13. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    To further clarify and to add another example, this 2005 P nickel shows the damage done by a coin wrapping/rolling machine. It will usually happen to the coin or coins on the outermost portions of the roll when the paper at the very end of the wrapper is rolled, by machine to close the wrapper. If you take a piece like this one and allow it to circulate, the lettering where it has been damaged will wear down and often merge with the field of the coin. The upper portion of the lettering will stand out more as that portion of the lettering was undamaged. The same thing that happened to this nickel occurred when the 1936 cent was, at one time, placed in a coin wrapper by a counting/wrapping machine.

    PS: I don't understand what is going on with the images. It was here yesterday but is now gone..... then it was back:)


  14. Jesse P

    Jesse P eagle eye

    well i read all the post and bhp3rd has helped me before.he is blunt and on this post i did take offense but the point is a have books been to phil mint have some knowledge.but am no expert and to get to the point being told im not in this to get rich quick i drive 2 bmws money is not the issue nor is arrogance.i love collecting coins and finding faults in coins.back to the coin i will use my lope and take a better photo.the words have excess material at the top and faint stamped letters under it.the rest of the letters are fine.its a interesting coin to say the least.
  15. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    I'm sorry I was so blunt Jesse, I apoligise for that. I often don't really mean to be blunt but I get frustrated - I will try and do better. Just keep working and show us you are learning that's all I ask. With learning should follow better more to the point type questions and inquiries from you.
    I will try not to comment at all unless I can help.
    No one enjoys learning from me until they need it - then, they don't forget. Not one person who I taught about die varieties enjoyed one minute of the learning but all have went on to find thier own thousand and multible thousand dollar coins. I bet they were glad for the lessions then huh?
    Money is not the issue for me either, learning and searching are, the thrill of the hunt. I just got though searching 3100 this am, not much to speak of but as Mel Fisher said, "today the day"! I'm going back for another 3000 in an hour or so.
    "Today may be the day"!!!
  16. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    Jesse P,

    From what you are saying, and from an untrained eye i believe this is fairly common. If anyone has any other information on this please let us know. I believe, and again i could be wrong, this happens from a worn die, when one needs to be changed out, or something similar.

  17. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    A lot of great comments but it's post mint damage for sure.
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