Featured 1914-D sad staple scratch

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Collect89, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    If you have a weak stomach, don’t look at the photos below.

    You are about to see a photo depicting a really nasty staple scratch. It is bad enough that the scratch happened to a coin but this scratch basically trashed a classic key date Lincoln cent. Whoever did this, couldn’t have positioned the scratch any worse. It is right through the 1914 date pointing to the D mint mark.

    This scratched 1914-D was purchased from Teletrade in an ANACS slab for my Dansco Lincoln Cent album. A few years later, it was removed from the Dansco & ANACS slabbed it again. ANACS gave it precisely the same net grade both times.

    When your stomach settles, guess the ANACS grade.

    Very best regards,

    Always be careful to avoid staple scratches when removing a coin from a 2x2.

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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    MS-66 RB , the same thing happened to a MS Barber Dime I had , won't use staples on any of my better coins and when I do I use high grade stainless steel staples and press the ends down with long nosed plyers , It is a sick feeling to see one of your coins get scratched .
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I bought it with the scratch. Imagine how you would feel if you were the one that scratched it!

    Very best,
  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    blork. It kills me.
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    I'll go with AU details, 55 to be more specific. No mention of color on the ANACS slab?
  7. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Ive started to use scisors to cut the 2x2 when removing the coin. It just seems to much safer than peeling open the 2x2, then trying to avoid the staples. I just cut the staples off the 2x2, as far from the coin as possible.
  8. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I use a sharp pocket Swiss Army, a Wenger knife, and gently cut thru the cellophane in a circle around the coin then discard the entire cardboard, staples still attached.

    I did this in front of David Lange at the Phoenix ANA and he covered his eyes, lol.

    My avatar coin now that I think of it.
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  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Wow, that sucks. Beautiful coin too. :(
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  11. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I have an mint state 1892 S dime with a similar scratch from removal from a 2X2 (not by me).

    Don't they sell self adhesive 2x2's in the US??? much less problems with removal.
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  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder

    I use Arizona Jack's technique, but with a #11 scalpel. keep the tip up against the cardboard and cut very slowly. MS 65 details,RB, scratched?
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  13. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    Would it be worth it to send it to a guy like Allen Stockton? It might bring some eye appeal back.
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    This post intrigued me, so I just had to ask: What could Allen Stockton do that could bring some eye appeal back? Since grinding, polishing or hammering should be off the table and "Scratch Be-Gone" (I think) only works on plastics and glass, then unless he can wish the scratch away, I just don't see how that anyone could help!

  15. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Bondo and a fresh paint job would do wonders, lol
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  16. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Yeah, I guess that he could put an even larger and deeper scratch behind Lincoln's head which would take the focus off of the other scratch.:eek:

  17. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    Here's my take on it, feel free to flame away. The coin is already damaged, the surface could be repaired to hide the scratch. Assuming it is already a NCS candidate due to the scratch, why not fix the damage, re-slab it with the damage mentioned, but at least it would look nicer?

    Friend of mine who is a dealer (All this time I never knew he was a coin dealer!) had this guy plug 2 holed Bust silver coins he had. He showed me before pics and then showed me the one he had left in an NCS slab, gotta tell you, it made a heck of an improvement. As long as it's disclosed I see no problem with it.
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Why not ? Because what happens when it is cracked out of that slab and sold to someone as problem free ? That's why not.
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  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Can this damage be fixed and look decent? I don't know. But, I have always had a problem with this physiology. Do whatever you want with your coins. They are yours. If you want to "fix" them (if you can) so they can be slabbed in a damaged holder and look better...then do it. I don't know if that's possible to fix and look better though. But, don't worry about what happens if you sell your coin and someone down the road cracks it out and tried to sell it as an undamaged coin. Yes, that's unethical and wrong...but at the end of the day it's that buyers responsibility to know the coin they are purchasing. It's not our job to protect other collectors. We are here to answer questions and do whatever we can to educate those who ask, but I don't feel obliged to collect in a way that "protects" someone else. If I want my coin "restored" and slabbed as damaged...so be it.
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  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Absolutely your right to do so. But that is exactly why there are so many problem coins out there.

    Wouldn't it be much better for the hobby to have the attitude that if you don't like the look of your coin - to leave it alone and just get one that you do like ?
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  21. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 *The King Of Jokes*

    :eek: I......Iii...think I need a minute to console myself. That is just sad!! That is a beautiful coin. It has beautiful strike, beautiful color, man. I'll say AU-55ish, maybe a 58? (Normal grade without the scratch, I'll say they net it to AU-50ish?)

    Phoenix :cool:
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