1887 7/6 Morgan Silver Dollar

Many years ago when I was a kid I purchased this coin for $4.75 (at that time it was described as “Choice BU”). I know its tough to tell with these images, but I’d sure appreciate anyone’s opinion or approximation regarding its grade or condition.

I have supplied a PCGS certified example (MS-64) for comparison – if helpful. I know absolutely nothing about the “VAM System”, and based on a few other certified examples of other Morgan Dollars I’ve seen feel really hopeless at assessing anything better than MS-60 (at least with Morgan Dollars).

Thanks, A.J.

 

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im new to coins but if your coin is the one ontop those are really nice... and i think they would definately get over ms60

 

I'd call it ms-63

 

Hi,

I’m into Morgans and that’s one of the nicest coins I’ve seen in quite a while. MS-65 seems possible to me.

 

MS63 with a bath years ago. The coin looks dull to me, but it could be the pictures.

 

I'm pretty sure it's the pictures. I've noticed that same dullness on coins that have been scanned. Actual pictures are much brighter.

 

I hope I am wrong about this, but I don't believe that your morgan is the overdate variety. There typically is a raised piece of metal from where the overdate was to the lef of the 7, and the metal to the right is more pronounced on the 7/6 than what I am seeing on yours.

 

i think it is a strongly dipped au-58 i see wear on the hair

 

I agree with zaneman that it is not the 1887/6 overdate! I also agree with Jako lipo that it is a strongly dipped AU-58 as there is wear on Miss Liberty's hair and there is some rub on the Eagle's breast!


Frank

 

I suppose I asked a foolish question – at least that’s my impression from many of the answers.

I’d thought to give some information before the coin slides down into “Good condition with a bath”. The images were provided with the aid of a scanner, and the coin is very shiny (at least equal to the PCGS sample provided). I had to reduce the size for the sake of the 100 KB limit (5.22 MB initially). The hair doesn’t show well in the image I provided, and I guess it’s the scanner.

As for the 7 over 6 issues; I suppose I didn’t provide adequate proof. The coin when viewed at the correct angle gives little doubt in that regard. I have shown this coin to several dealers and the like, and although there was some variability as to condition, there was almost always admiration and I cannot remember any question regards authenticity.

I have learned a great deal from the responses, and I hope the contagion of the opinion doesn’t discourage others from using this site.

Thanks for your comments, A.J.

My Opinion: If this coin was dipped, it must have been standard procedure at the Philadelphia mint in the nineteenth century.

 

I've added some photos - whatever they're worth.

A.J.

 

I agree. I have scanned a morgan that I knew was unc, but had people tell me it was XF or AU. Grading from good photos is hard enough, grading from scans just can't be accurate.
As for the overdate, I just recently started researching that sort of thing, so I don't know much, but I beleive Zane is right about the raised peice of metal.

 

GDJMSP,

Thanks for responding. I guess I was a bit ambiguous, but what you call the slabbed example is a picture taken of my coin with a digital blue microscope at 10X, and I must apologize. I should have made it clear by name and placement that it was a shot of my coin.

I appreciate the markers you placed (I wasn’t aware about the “1”).

Thanks, A.J.

 

I agree witht the opinions that it is an AU coin and not a 7/6.

 

I can assure you GDJMSP; the two shots are of the same coin. The microscope made the difference, although I thought I could see it in the photos as well. I think you can see from my clumsy marks that it is the same coin. I've included a couple of other shots I took with my microscope - one very similar to the other (at 10X), and another one I took at 60X.

 

GEF, nothing else. Might have been dipped, but the wear is cabinet/bag friction.

 

The last set of close-ups show it is the same coin. You proved your point coinage10, but those pics could have been used earlier. I’m new to this site, but it isn’t dipped and is way better than AU. Get the coin certified, use ANACS