1803 Large Cent - Small date /Large fraction

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  1. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hey people, I found this 1803 large cent Several years ago . It's a sm. date/ large fraction . I just need your honest opinion to it's grade (obviously details grade) . Be nice. It was in the ground a long time. Thanks. 1803 LC -Obv.jpg 1803 LC -Rev.jpg
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Great find. Looks VF details to me, but hard to say for sure.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    It's like the saying goes , "it''s better in hand " . I just can't get all the details I want to .
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Yeah, dark copper is hard enough to photograph. Add a bit of porosity to the mix, and it gets even harder.

    Check out the one my local buddy dug. In some places down here where there is well-drained, sandy soil, the old copper can come out really well preserved.

    (Alas, my own solitary Draped Bust cent find was not in such a place, and was heavily corroded.)

    Several of these Sheldon-166 variety 1798s with the telltale die break on the reverse were found in this region. I speculate that a keg of them was probably shipped to Darien or Savannah by around 1800, and they made their way throughout SE coastal GA.

    My same buddy found a 1798/7 which was nearly (though not quite) as nice as this one.

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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Wow, that's amazing . Such detail . That's got to worth " a pretty penny".
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Yes, but the 1798/7 was worth even more. I sold both coins for him. Wish I had kept one. It would be nice to have one of these really sharp DB cents in my collection, knowing something about the sites where they were dug. I'd make an exception to my "no details-graded coins" rule for something like that.

    Here is something else my buddy Billy R. dug down here. Looked like a piece of waste metal slag at first. Then you saw the stamps on it.

    Billy took the money from that, bought a new high-end detector, and then went out on the beach with that and found a big platinum and diamond ring worth a goodly chunk of change. He truly is one of the most skilled AND lucky diggers I've ever met.
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    That is lucky !
     
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  9. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Very difficult to say what condition the coin was in before it hit the ground, too much corrosion, but somewhere around VF30 to EF40 IMO. Net is about G4-G6.
     
  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    That's fair . I was looking for VG8 , but that's ok. We cool . I'll take G4 details .
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’d say vf deatail myself. Not sure on eac grade
     
  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I honestly am surprised that 98/7 didn’t straight grade. I think it would with a couple try’s
     
  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It probably had VF-EF detail when it was lost the ground. I think that the corrosion has removed some of the fine detail. The net EAC grade would be in the FR to AG- 2 or 3 range.
     
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  14. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Just adding my similar one (Mine's an S-260); it originally came back for a friend as "authenticity unverifiable" but on a re-look through my contact came back at least certified.

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    PCGS in particular has been very tough on details type early coppers in my opinion with several from friends coming back "AU" (not the good kind!) lately.
     
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