King Christian VI of Denmark - 1 SKILLING 1735 Reference required please?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Topcat7, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I have this, (some would say pitiful), example of a 1735 (silver) 1 Skilling coin, from the reign of King Christian VI.
    I am trying to 'reference' this coin and the problem is that my "Standard Catalogue of World Coins" by Krause and Mischler starts with King Christian VII, and therefore does not reference the coins of the earlier King.
    Despite exhaustive searching on CNG, Acsearch, Wildwinds, Numista, and a number of other sites, I cannot find an example of this coin with a 'KM#'.
    Can anyone assist me, please?

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  3. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Oct 19, 2019
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  4. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @Bradley Trotter
    I thank you for your input, Bradley, and I followed it up, but there was no 'Reference' there, so the hunt continues.
     
  5. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I believe that this refers to the coin from an earlier series (1719-1722 - not 1735) and therefore it is doubtful that the reference number would be the same.
     
  6. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    The reason why I posted that coin is because that was the closest coin to the one posted on that Norwegian website. Overall, I find it quite odd that such a coin isn't in the Krause catalog or on Numista.
     
  7. dadams

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  8. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @dadams
    I think that you are right! That's good enough for me.
    KM#541 it is then.
    Thank-you.
     
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  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    If you need any assistance with the Norwegian text, I'd be glad to help.

    Steve
     
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  10. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I appreciate that, Steve. Thank-you.
    I will let you know.
     
  11. Magdeburgensis

    Magdeburgensis New Member

    The coin is from Denmark, and the writing on the reverse is in Danish. For future reference, this is a really useful tool by NGC:

    https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

    You can search for coins included in the Standard Catalog of World Coins series. E.g. "Denmark 1735 Skilling", etc.
     
  12. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    For what it's worth, I've had decent success identifying 1500-1800 coins by searching MA Shops. This is especially helpful if Krause doesn't have a picture and you're trying to determine between different varieties.
     
  13. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Just an FYI for folks who might acquire some 1700s-1800s Danish/Norwegian/Swedish coins: for approximately 350 years Denmark controlled Norway, until Denmark chose the wrong side in the Napoleonic War and Norway was "given" to Sweden. The Norwegian "holy day" of Syttende Mai is usually wrongly called their Independence Day celebration. It is their "Constitution Day" celebration.

    On May 17, 1814 Norway wrangled their way to getting a constitution approved with Sweden's acquiescence (Sweden had an easy few weeks subduing the Norwegian Army and stopped their move to full independence). Having their own constitution mollified the Norwegians until they renewed their movement toward full independence in 1905. I've visited a border fort in Norway built specifically for the expected impending war with Sweden which never happened. Sweden "let" Norway go. Strangely, that day is not celebrated.

    That is the background. It means that Norwegian coin inscriptions are in the Danish language until the Swedish took over. Norwegians traveled to Denmark for higher education for decades. So by then, the written Norwegian language was so heavily influenced by the centuries under Danish rule that the two written languages were essentially identical.

    An interesting transition took place in 1875. Oscar II, King of Sweden (and Norway) wanted to avoid war with Norway. Beginning with his reign until full independence, one can tell which country the coins were for by two methods:
    1. The country listed first;
    2. The spelling of "ore" : øre for Norway, öre for Sweden.

    Steve
     
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