I tried handling this peacefully . . . Now what do I do?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ToughCOINS, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I would have a hard time doing business with a seller that did something like this. All trust would be gone.
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Write this down. Doug and I are in agreement.
     
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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    @ToughCOINS , how do you know this is the sake buyer sweeping in behind you? Just because 10 years ago another buyer questioned you about making a profit?
     
  5. John Johnson

    John Johnson Well-Known Member

    Good point. I think the only thing to do is report both the seller and the buyer any time this happens. Only a weasel would do that, but my beef would be with the sellers, actually. Once an auction ends, the deal is done. A seller who cancels a sale afterwards should receive negative feedback and be reported.
     
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  6. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    Sellers who cancel a transaction with me get a negative and if I see in their feedbacks that they have a history of playing games with buyers I will call Ebay and report them.
    That's how you reward crooked sellers.
     
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  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    The offender contacted me several years ago wanting me to cancel a sale to sell to him for more, which I didn't. I offered to connect the buyer with him, if interested in re-selling the coin, but the buyer wasn't interested. I had already sold a couple of coins to him before that, so he was known to me.

    It wasn't long after that when I began having auction wins canceled, and even some Buy It Now purchases that I caught immediately upon appearance. It seemed like he was watching my every move. I know that wasn't the case . . . he was just watching for a lot of the same coins I was. Still, that's how it felt.

    Anyway, whenever one of my purchases gets canceled without my permission, I immediately message the seller, explaining that I think I know what's going on, and ask them to confirm the name of the offender. Whenever they've fessed up to what's going on, they've almost always confirmed that it's him.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I know this has been said before, but the guy is stalking you Mike. There must be a way to throw this 'Remora' off, but devil if I know how. He knows your movements and tastes........
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I've thought that sometimes, but keep telling myself I'm just being paranoid, and shake it off.
     
  10. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    EBay has informed me on several occasions after the seller had been forwarded my funds that there was nothing they'd do. I pay promptly shortly after the auctions close, so there isn't any excuse, but it appears that virtually everyone is primarily concerned about the "bottom line" rather than contractual obligations.
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    It is ALWAYS a good idea to have separate accounts for buying and selling. This thread is just one of the reasons why.
     
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  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Live by the eBay, die by the eBay.
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I respect your approach and is similar to my own in another life.

    The point with two accounts wasn't to hide but protect, and the other was that sometimes doing the right thing results in unintended consequences that reflect worse upon us than those deserving.
     
  14. charlie123

    charlie123 Well-Known Member

    'Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.'
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    "Paranoids can have enemies too, you know."
    - Henry Kissinger
     
  16. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I didn't read all the responses, but it sounds more like a seller issue. Once they have a binding contract they should not back out of the deal. Do you think the buyer is targeting you? Or just whatever type of coin you are going after? There's no way to see who buys an auction, correct?
     
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  17. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    If I sold a coin and got a message asking to buy it for more I wouldn't even respond. Just like I didn't respond to the "I'll give you $700" message for my $1,049 BIN coin with no offer option on it. People like that don't deserve a response and sellers who would cancel a sale to reward that behavior are equally as scummy.

    Also despite people's best efforts to degrade an entire platform when the occasional negative thing happens - ebay is still a great venue to find nice coins. It's really not that difficult to just avoid sketchy situations by being patient and sticking to trusted dealers there which there are plenty of. Most of the problems people post about are the result of taking a gamble trying to strike it big. (Not this thread of course but just talking in general)
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    100% Truth.
     
  19. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I must be the luckiest I don’t know what as far as eBay goes. I’ve only had one problem with a seller and it was as 80 percent my own doing (failing to read and comprehend the written description of what I was buying)
     
  20. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I think the buyer is tracking some of the same coins I like to buy.

    There actually, is a way to track who is buying what . . . sort of. See post 36.
     
  21. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Give us his name
     
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