Are coin "reprints" the same as counterfeits?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mecha1166, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Here's a good one. I had a 1953 Proof Franklin half up for sale and slabbed by ANACS. Someone reported it as a fake and ebay took it down and sent me a nasty gram. Really?? But they did not take down the medals made by the American Mint that looked like actual coins. Go figure.
     
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Was a fellow this morning that posted a copy of a Spanish Reale. You can go to any coastal gift shop in my state and buy Little gift treasure chests filled with these things. They are marketed as a gift. But when one goes astray and falls into the hands of a hungry new collector, he then believes he has found the golden chalice. As rabid as people are these days to strike it rich I believe if it don’t look like Monopoly money, then don’t market it. Period.
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Yep and they are available in gift shops in Portsmouth, N.H., Newport, R.I., Virginia Beach, Va. and The Outer Banks, N.C. Four places I have frequented.
     
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  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I'm gonna say yes, that wacked out fad is still in full flower. Now I'm gonna sit and wait for the inevitable backlash that's coming.
     
  6. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    In Italy they make these very nice pre-1945 Italian reproduction coins that are called "riconio" and they are sold as being reproductions. These coins are not marked "copy". The problem is I see some of them being sold on American Ebay as being authentic.
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The other day I tried to list "Autographed copy of Penny Prices by Noyes," and eBay kicked it out and would not let me list it. I was attempting to list in 2 categories. Coin supplies/albums, and Large Cents. It seems "copy" is on their banned words list...
     
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  8. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    Most of the baseball crowd doesn't get it. Here is a quote today from Beckett's website:
    "I don't see what the problem is with the Brett card. Clear states in the title that it is a REPRINT. If he was trying to sell it as an original and it was fake that would be different. A lot of buyers like these 'cause it makes think look like they have the real thing when there is no way they could afford one."
     
  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Did you reply to them that your coin is not a fake, certified to be genuine by a legitimate grading company, and perhaps they should get some coin experts before making incorrect decisions. This company is headed for some rough times. You can't operate a business this way. They just take the word of some disgruntled nobody without doing any fact checking at all? Glad I stopped doing business with them.
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Again, this is no different from what many embrace in this hobby. The approach, excuse, everything the same.
     
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Why not? This is how we run the country today.
     
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  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It probably would have worked as "autographed edition".
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Books,

    You know why this is, right? We have more data than we can EVER do anything meaningful with, so we use algorithms instead of intelligence.
     
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  14. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    No, I did not confront them about it, takes too much time, and it's usually a no win effort with these people as they really have no one that seems to have a clue about real from copy or counterfeit.
     
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  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I just felt you could tell them you are losing business and they are 100% wrong.
     
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  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    They. Don't. Care. As long as they don't have to pay smart people, they're okay.
     
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  17. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Yep, just keep using the algorithms THEY designed and THEY are right all the time.
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    That's what I hear... and seems to be working out oh so well, doesn't it?
     
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  19. dennis hartley

    dennis hartley New Member

    I recently, had a run in with a young man who was selling a copy cc Morgan on e-Bay. The bidders, were paying top dollar for the coin, so I told him I didn't care for his unethical behavior. He rationalized it, buy saying the coin had "copy" printed right on it, so it was" let the buyer beware" sort of deal. He even threatened to kick my old ass for interfering. Do you have anymore information about the e-Bay ban of these coins. Thank you, d.hartleydesmia.
     
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  20. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    Report the seller to Ebay, call them and explain. Ebay has plenty of crooked sellers like him running scams to burn buyers. Ebay needs to do a better job of cracking down on them and weeding them out.
     
  21. Mary Boettcher

    Mary Boettcher New Member

    Do these copy and tribute coins have much value in the market? Is it worth collecting them too? I saw a hobo nickel copy for sale and I thought it was really cool looking. I had never seen one before and the history behind the originals is very interesting.
     
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