NGC Certifies 17 Glass tokens from WWII

You are the kind of evil I can just stand back and applaud out of sheer admiration. You need some "minions". Burdette is my number on guy I love to hate in numismatic circles, solely because I rescue feral cats. (Question: are wandering and relocated farm cats still "feral"? I just seems a different matter from suburban or urban ones.)

"great Roger Burdette" - for the reason above, three words I would NEVER put together. Sorry, but I am such a cat admirer, being a cat hater is something I simply can't abide. It's "personal".

 

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I'm so torn about Burdette's recent book on 1936-42 proofs. It's one of my key areas of interest, but I really wish someone else had written it. The "cat thing" is that important to me.

It's analogous to the deep nastiness that flows between "Books" and Dan Carr.

I'm not particularly proud of feeling this way about a fellow numismatist, but there it sits, looking at me.

 

I guess if you deny yourself knowledge due to your biases, then you value a grudge more than education? Meow.

 

$70k with the bp. https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/1...judd-2069-rb-42-70-r8-pr64-pcgs/a/1251-6170.s

 

I can't stand cats as I'm allergic and more of a dog guy but to go to the creative lengths of atrocity and genocide that Burdette does, especially on open forums, is ridiculous..

 

Burdette bought that coin for around $4k I think on eBay. Good for him though for recognizing it and pulling the trigger. But he was rather irritated that it was Dan Carr and not him that found the broken sword Peace bronze.

 

At the point when Roger's book came out there was only one, a broken one known. Roger turned up the second, intact piece and it sold for $70K. Some of the glass tokens would turn up from time to time, but not the experimental cents. Now all of a sudden 17 more cents and tokens have come out of the woodwork at the same time. I doesn't say who submitted them, but I would bet it was someone in the family of one of the glass company executives from back then.

 

They may not have been the same ones just certified, but I recall seeing quite a few different glass experimental cents several years ago at the FUN show. IIRC, the dealer told me that several glass companies were making these and proposing them to the mint. I'm not overly familiar with patterns, so I am most likely incorrect in my statement that these have been (publicly) around for years and the ones that I saw were most likely not these particular examples.

 

I don't post on CU but do read the thread. It has been interesting to see how some people react when they aren't the beneficiaries. I keep a mental note of the people that to put it nicely seem to think anything should be allowed, like the cent specialist who trashed a coin in auction only later to brag was a steal he got winning it

 

What you saw was most likely the PLASTIC ones not glass. Same designs but not transparent., most of the ones I remember seeing were an off white or cream color. The glass ones are transparent amber.

I saw a similar exhibit years ago at the Indiana State show.

 

BTW, I wonder who the "bright" guy was that thought glass cents would actually work and authorized the experiments.

 

That sounds right now that you say it.

 

No, C-B-D, it's not the bulk of the knowledge I need. As I wrote earlier, that short series IS one of my specialties already. Even if I liked Burdette, I'd feel a need to scan the book at a show before I'd pull the trigger and buy it, because I'd want to know the target audience of the book. If it's too basic, it wouldn't be right for me if it was written by my best friend. But if there's new scholarship in there, I WILL still pull that trigger and buy it while metaphorically holding my nose. I'll hate doing it, but I will do it, if it offers me something new of value.

I can, and do, think Burdette's a creep, yet still give him his due if the book has what I think it MIGHT. I'm not THAT self-destructive. Close! But not that far.

 

I must be really in the dark about this. Is this Roger Burdette some maniacal cat serial killer?

 

I think it would have been the better idea financially, to only release 1 of these 17 every year and not let it be known the others existed, in order to keep the price high for the seller. As was stated before the price will drop for these, and the person who paid 70K will never see that money come back.
It wasn't just glass they experimented with a number of different materials
when copper was needed to kill the Nazi's, before settling on the steel cent.
So, there must be other experimental cents/ patterns out there. In all kinds of materials.

 

Thank you for understanding, Casc, you're a stand up guy.

 

Pretty darned close, especially rhetorically. Whether he acts on it must be left to our imaginations. If I were a shady lawyer, and I'm not "but I play one on TV" , I might have been tempted to be sure there was a cat lover or two on the Langbord trial jury and use a "bomb drop" about Burdette's cat-hating to impeach him in the jury's eyes.

 

They had a much better "bomb drop" to focus on

 

Yes indeedy they did. And while ol' Rog is undeniably a hotshot researcher and author, not to mention an ANA 2017 Denver talk presenter (Really, Sam?), his reputation now as an "I'll say anything you want in a courtroom for the right fee" kind of person, could, should, and WILL follow his kiester around like a loyal puppy. His "rep" is shot for courtroom expert purposes, and that almost NEVER gets rehabbed. Then throw the cat hating on top, just like a maraschino cherry, and you get YET ANOTHER highly personally flawed numismatic "figger" onto the pile.

Breen, Sheldon, Burdette. Who's number 4 on the Rushmore-esque numismatic "hall of shame"?

 

Kind of says a lot when someone significantly jeopardizes/loses one of the biggest if not the biggest numismatic case in decades over an internet thread argument because apparently their ego seems to make them have to respond. The Langboards were far far far kinder than I would have been if I were them.

Speaking of which I hope you are ready for the US mint display in Denver, might have some fired up people around that one with 2 of the Langboard Double Eagles and the 74-D Aluminum cent on display.