1916 Lincoln Cent. What do you think?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Would you care to explain that a bit, please.
     
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  3. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member

    I'm not a Lincoln Cent person, so I really have no idea if its a Proof or not. I do wish you good luck if that's what your shooting for.

    What I do see that I don't think anyone else is looking at is the W in WE looks doubled to me. Some times its an optical illusion created by the photograph....its worth looking at your coin to double check.
     
  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Man, I'm a bit stumped on this one, but I'll go out on a limb and give it a MS-64 RB and wish you the best.
     
  5. Heated Lime

    Heated Lime Member

    Beautiful coin. I'd go MS66
     
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thought I saw a fingerprint, then convinced myself it was toning. Going back and looking at it again, it IS a fingerprint. Even on the reverse, check just below OF AM and it is quite clear.
     
  7. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    gbroke, I dont have to mention again that my birthday is coming up soon, right ? :D
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I think it will come back MS details, questionable color. I've submitted a few with that kind of toning and they got rejected. It definitely had/has a print on it. Personally, I'm not bonkers over the coin and I'd pass on if I saw it for sale. What most non-Lincoln people don't realize when they see a 1916 is that the obverse master hub was redesigned that year so most all 16's look amazing.
     
  9. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

  10. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    I agree the surfaces are suspect, at least judging by the OP photos

    But if I saw the coin in hand I may think otherwise.
     
  11. 74Teen

    74Teen Member

    I'm gonna buck the trend a little bit and say MS63 at best.

    Still a gorgeous coin that I'd be proud to own.
     
  12. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Does this change anyones opinion?
    Here it is shot with an SLR. My point and shoot simply couldn't get the detail.
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    This might mean something to someone as well.
    "pitchfork"

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  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    This has no bearing on the grade.
     
  14. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    Despite what others may believe I am half convinced this thing could possibly be a Matte Proof. The rim and the finish looks awfully similar to other specimens I have seen. I am actually excited to see what this thing comes back as. It is a gorgeous coin and with only a few thousand 1916's that are left uncirculated you should be a very proud owner Greg. Keep us updated!
     
  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Ok, will 'revise' my grade. From MS 65 to either PR 67 or MS 67. That cent looks amazingly beautiful. I hope it is a PR.... but I don't think the area you point to is the 'pitchfork'. I don't know hardly anything re: these, but in looking for the diagnostics, the 'pitchfork' is supposed to be three lines below the date, not one between numbers in the date. Good luck, and let us know how this turns out!
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you, didn't know that. Beautiful coin, I'll go for MS66.
     
  17. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Here are photos of the date area and the diagnostics that appear between and below the 9 and 1 with three different MPL's.

    I'm not totally convinced this is an MPL, basically due to some areas around the rim that don't seem completely flat and sharp.

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  18. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Well based on your nickname for the die diagnostic, I Goggled it. Well, it also looking like you have another marker which I think I see: "Die scratch from the rim to the top right of the first U of Pluribus".

    I guess this is kinda sorta confirmation for a MATTE PROOF?
     
  19. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Oh sure, NOW everyone is getting on board with the MS66+/67. :p
     
  20. Drjones266

    Drjones266 Money Never Sleeps

    I'm curious as to how you got those beautiful photos. :) Macro Lens on your SLR?
     
  21. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Your eyes are better than mine. I can't seem to see it.
     
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