saudi arabian silver riyal

Discussion in 'World & Ancient Coins' started by pete1970, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    I know this coin is one silver riyal but does any one know the date. can you translate the writing on this coin for me.or any info at all is great.
    I have many more coins from Saudi,Kuwait, Bahrain, and Iraq. also I would like help with.
    I will list these later. thanks
    which side is the reverse?

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  3. Harfoush

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  4. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    the color in the photo appears to be be gold but it is in fact silver.the link you provided is for gold coins.
    thanks for the date.
  5. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    The side with the crossed swords in the lower box (rather than the number) is commonly termed the obverse.
  6. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    Hello,I had a feeling I would hear from you again.Thanks
  7. itsallngoodtime

    itsallngoodtime Beachhunter

    I didn't know but very nice coin so I just looked to see it and what people told you. Pretty good info here on CT.
    Bob
  8. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    It is a beautiful piece. Its one of my favorite coins.as far as elegance in design is concerned.
  9. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Pete1970,

    It can be fun to translate the numbers in an AH date into English. Here is what the numbers look like in Arabic/Turkish:

    ٠, ١, ٢, ٣, ٤, ٥, ٦, ٧, ٨, ٩
    In English, this translates into
    9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0

    AH dates back to the Christian year 622 AD when Mohammed fled from Mecca. For every day after that, the Muslim year is 11 days shorter than the AD Christian year. Your 1370 AH converts to 1950 AD.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
  10. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    That's why almost 97% of the time the equivalence should be stated as a dual date - e.g. "1950/51", not merely "1950".

    1429 AH was the most recent Muslim year that fell entirely within one Gregorian calendar year - January 10-December 29, 2008. Next time that happens will be 1463 AH, in 2041 CE.

    Because the Muslim year is 12 lunar months - each consisting of 29 or 30 days - and the Gregorian calendar is based on the solar cycle, with months of 28-31 days each, a Muslim year is 10-12 days shorter than a Gregorian year. Each cycle of about 33-1/2 Muslim years equals only about 32-1/2 Gregorian years.

    In fact, only 23% of 1370 AH elapsed during 1950 - beginning on October 12 of that year. The other 77%, ending on October 2, was in 1951.

    (Generally the slight date discrepancy caused by the Gregorian calendar day running 24 hours - from midnight to midnight - and the Muslim calendar day running 24 hours+/- - from sundown to sundown - doesn't affect whether a particular Muslim year is, or is not, wholly within one Gregorian year.)
  11. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    Good info, thanks to all!!
    I had many other coins to ID. I took the liberty of translating them myself
    with help from the internet.If you look hard enough you can find it!
    Thanks again.
  12. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Pete1970,

    This coin is a fun one to translate the date.
    First you will read the year 1293 AH.
    Note the 33 at the top of the coin. This means that it was the 33rd year of that coin design and you must add that many years to the AH date before you convert to the AD date. However, the first year, you would add nothing so on the 33rd year, you would add 32 years to 1293 & then convert. Got it?

    Maybe someone can post another good example.

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  13. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This is the other side of the coin. It can be fun to determine a coin's country of origin & denomination.

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  14. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    Another example from Egypt. A 4 para, with the ascension year AH 1277, year 4 = AH 1280 (about 1864 AD). The number 4 on the obverse below the toughra refers to the denomination, while the 4 at 12 o'clock on the reverse refers to the year. Ascension year 1277 at base of reverse.

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    An example from Yemen on a 1/2 Ahmadi riyal, but with two full years shown. The ascension year AH 1367 is shown near top of obverse, while the year of strike is at about 7 o'clock on the reverse (AH 1379, about 1960 AD). The coin was crudely struck over the punched-out center of a Maria Teresa thaler.

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  15. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    this is very odd.I would never have known this. Is this a common practice?
    Have you determined the origin of this coin
  16. pete1970

    pete1970 Coin Collector

    very nice.
  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    The main device on this coin is called a Tougrha. The Toughra is some kind of calligraphic signature of an Ottoman Sultan. You will often see the Toughra on coins from Turkey & Egypt. This coin is from Egypt.

    Very best regards,
    collect89

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