Parthian Kingdom

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Eng, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    I had coin club last night, i was going to quit buying Ancients and finish my modern collection, well i ended up buying a few more..:cool:

    Gotarzes l 90 -85...BC..
    Ar Drachm..
    Ob. Diad. and cuir. bust left, short beard.
    Rev. Archer enthroned right, holding bow..
    21mm x 4.13 g.
    This coin has some good details, also its has a gold hue to it. I think Martin posted a gold hue coin
    a while back...he had a term for it..
    Also, i'm not sure this is a Gotarzes l coin, sellers info, went through websites can't find this bust for this coin....i really don't know much about these, i know these tend to be a little pricey, i picked this up very reasonable..
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I don't have any Parthia Drachms, but I really like them and just always get sidetracked...:(


    I do think the coin is in amazing condition and its is an absolutely gorgeous bust.

    With that all being said, I think it is Orodes II or Phraates III.... I am sure others will know more, as I could be completely wrong but the bust looks familiar(ish).

    Great pickup Eng. :cool:

    Why on earth would you want to go back to collecting moderns...yikes..:mad:
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's a beautiful coin. I haven't gone down the Parthian path, but I've admired quite a few pieces, and yours is definitely choice!
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Beautiful, and in remarkable condition!
     
  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

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  7. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Thanks guys, i think your right on the Orodes l Chris...BTW i'll hang around a while..:)
     
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  8. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Great coin. I love the nose. :cool:
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Holy Frick!!

    => Nice Parthian Kingdom, my west coastal dawg!!!

    => that coin is bringin' it!!
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Stunning coin. Great detail. Wish it were mine.
     
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  11. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Very nice condition and style Eng. Excellent piece. I admit I have never been as big a fan of parthian as I am sassanid. Yours is an earlirr style, though, which is very atrractive.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There is disagreement among various books on who gets which Parthian coins. The scheme I prefer says this one is Orodes I after the death of his father (Mithradates II) with whom he had ruled jointly for a few years. The joint coins showed him in a tall crown which he removed and changed the legend from 'who loves his father' to 'whose father is a god' as seen here. The nose remains the same.

    My late, sole reign, coin is a lot like the OP example - just not as nice. The significant line of the legend is the inner left 'Theopatros' reading down. Note the o's are really small marks.
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    The earlier coin while Mithradates was alive has a seven line legend including at the inner bottom (upside down here) 'fatherlover' and below that (also upside down) Autokrator which, I understand is a bit like the Roman Caesar used by junior rulers. There is a lot about this one that I do not understand. Note the star on the crown has seven points rather than the usual 6 or 8. Most unusual is the inner left legend which reads Epifanoys as it should but the first two letters are separated by the M of the inner top line Megaloy.
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The second photo disappeared agin as I have had trouble before. I do not understand CT software.
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Very interesting!....thanks guys...now I have to go out and purchase some coins....:(
     
  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    The only coin I have of this period...

    Kingdom of Parthia, Seleucia
    Gotarzes II 40-51 AD year 362 of the Seleucid era (51 AD)
    AR Tetradrachm 26mm x 13.87g
    Obverse: Diademed Head of Gotarzes II Left
    Reverse: Tyche Presenting Diadem to Gotarzes II-Greek Legend- "king of kings Arsaces the benefactor, the just, the illustrious (Epiphanes), the friend of the Greeks (Philhellen)", without mentioning his proper name." 20130530_GotarzesIIAUTO_opt.jpg
     
  16. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Thank you for the info Doug. I really don't know much about these coins, while looking at coins i see these and they tend to pricey. My "guy" at the club i attend has over a hundred Ancient coins on hand, plus i'm the only one in club that buys from him, so he gives me a great deal on all the coins i buy...;)
     
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  17. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thats it I am getting on a plane and going to WA. For that kind of selection it might be worth it...that and a couple of cold ones with Eng.:cool:
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    If looking at Parthian, I always like Mithradates I and II. These two are early rulers, and their coins have great, classical greek, levels of artistry. I do like Eng's piece as well, as it displays similar great style. I never understood why the artistry deteriorated so poorly in the later years. Same thin with Sassanid, early rulers wonderful artistry, later rulers poor style.
     
  19. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I know nothing of these but cool coin! Definitely better than getting a modern imo
     
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