Jetons - post yours here

Discussion in 'World & Ancient Coins' started by jetoncollector, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    I'm not familiar with NGC or tpg standards, and am interested in an answer to this, too. I have always assumed the tpg guarantee of authenticity, but there are many restrikes of medals and jetons, and am curious how they label them.

    I also have a question, maybe the medal collectors can answer - How is purity determined? I've seen jetons listed as 2argent, 3argent, and so on... can someone explain the significance of this? I assume this is a reference to silver purity, but am interested in specifics.
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    Excellent question, Guy. The answer is, "Sometimes yes, and sometimes no!"

    In the case of your Queen Anne medal, it is safe to assume that it was an original strike since it had such a high mintage. I'm sure that the references available to NGC would indicate if there were, in fact, later restrikes, and they probably wouldn't have certified it if they had any doubt.

    However, this isn't always the case. There were a lot of medals and jetons produced in very, very low mintages by private mints, and the person or entity ordering them didn't want to invest any substantial sum for 4-, 5- or 6-figure quantities just to have them end up sitting in their inventory. As a result, there are instances of restrikes whenever the original supply was depleted.

    Here is an example of a Ben Franklin medal that was originally designed by Augustin Dupre in 1786 to celebrate Franklin's 80th birthday. In 2006, the Monnaies de Paris produced this restrike to celebrate the 300th anniversary of Franklin's birth.

    Chris

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  4. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    Here is a silver English jeton, dating 1630. Not in the best condition, but I really liked the portrait-

    Charles I - Dominion of the Sea (N. Briot)



    1630 England - jeton of Charles I.JPG
  5. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    This is my only one.

    1830_Nuremberg_Jetton_Horse.jpg
  6. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

  7. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    I may be missing something, but I only see medal restrikes on the link. Jetons are usually easy enough to identify as restrikes or original.....is it ok to give a link to my website? Here, I have some basic info up so far on my jeton website, jetoncollector.com. I have a little info on there as to how to identify restrikes. Please feel free to look it over, and feedback on the site is appreciated, too.
  8. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    And here are two more, the first is a 1684 August de Pomereu jeton, second is an 1842 Prefecture de la Seine jeton.

    And many thanks to those who have posted their own jetons so far.

    1684 - August de Pomereu.JPG 1842 Paris Local Administration Prefecture de la Seine - Copy.jpg
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector Moderator

    Yes, those are purity (titre) levels. As far as I know - I'm not an expert, etc. :) - the "1er titre argent" means Ag 925 or 950 while the "2ème titre argent" is Ag800. Not sure how actively such terms (or "sterling silver" in English) are still used though.

    Christian
  10. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    Thanks, Christian.

    Anyone else here collect jetons?
  11. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    $(KGrHqYOKjoE4jN0sEKYBOKs+SBhI!~~0_3.jpg is this one???
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector ****

    Although I'm not what one would call a jeton collector, as I collect everything that is either metallic and round related to Dombes : http://monnaiesdeladombes.blogspot.com/
    I do have some of them.

    here are a few :

    D-026-F10846v-c.jpg
    Jeton, cuivre - 1636
    Atelier de Trévoux
    (croix de l'Ordre de St Esprit) GASTON . F . VNI . D . ROY (croix de l'Ordre de St Esprit) VSV . DE . L . SOV . D . DOM Ecu d'Orléans couronné entouré des colliers des ordres du roi
    P RINCIPI MIN9 . LICET . QVOD . OIA Le prince armé, debout à gauche du champ et tourné à droite, tenant derrière lui une épée et une balance, accueille un groupe de personnages agenouillés ; à l'exergue : *1636* ("Il est moins permis au prince qu'au peuple")
    4.83 gr
    Ref : Feuardent # 10846v

    D-026j-01.jpg
    Jeton, argent - 1642
    Atelier de Trévoux
    GASTON . DE . FRANCE (croix de l'Ordre de St Esprit) FRERE . VNIQVE . DV . ROY. Ecu d'Orléans couronné entouré des colliers des ordres du roi
    . QVO TRIA QVARTVM . Lis avec trois fleurs et un bouton. A l'exergue . 1642 . ("Où il y en a trois, il y aura un quatrième")
    4.51 gr,
    Ref : Feuardent # 10853

    D-027-F10869-c.jpg
    Jeton, bronze - 1635
    Atelier de Trévoux
    (rose) ABSENTIS LVCE REFVLGENT Paysage de campagne sous un ciel etoilé ("Elles rayonnent d'une lumière éloignée").
    * TOT SEDES VNICA FIRMAT * Une grenade couronnée entre deux branches de laurier
    ("Une seule couronne affermit tant de trônes"). A l'exergue : * 1635 *.
    6.68 gr
    Ref : F.10869

    Hope you enjoy them as much as I do
    Q
  13. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    I actually scrolled through this thread looking for someone to do that! Lol

    All kidding aside, these are beautiful!
  14. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    Hey Q, thanks for the link. Nice examples you have there. I don't have many early examples yet, they can be very difficult to find in higher grade.
  15. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    Here's one of my few earlier dates, 1671 -

    1671 France jeton - Les Assurances-3 - Copy.jpg
  16. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector Moderator

    They sure look great. :) But that Latin ... not that I am very good at it, but there sure are some interesting words, e.g. "oia" or "tot". Beats me. Assuming that the translations are OK, I still don't understand the second one: "Où il y en a trois, il y aura un quatrième". Where there are three, there will be a fourth one? Do you have any idea what that refers to?

    Christian
  17. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector ****

    Gaston, young brother of Louis XIII has been plotting against the king all his life. Most probably, as on other jetons of his, the latin legend has a double sense. But I didn't manage to find any clue on that one so far. Ideas welcome

    Q
  19. jetoncollector

    jetoncollector New Member

    Have I posted this one yet? :smile

    DSCF2617.jpg
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I don't but i love your and I'm glad that you collect them and show them off.
  21. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Here is an early French (?) jeton. ID anyone ????[​IMG][​IMG]

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