Japanese occupation money?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by pjstack, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    My friend asked me to research what he thinks is Japanese occupation money (Philippines). There are two 5 peso notes and one ten peso note, all approximately the size of a US dollar bill. Rather worn and tattered.

    He also has two Japanese occupation fractional notes, one cent and ten cents, that I think came from what used to be called Dutch Indochina. They are crisp uncirculated.

    We want to know if there is collector interest in this material.

    I will try to post pictures of all the notes if I can figure out how to do it.
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  3. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    The Dutch Indochina fractional notes are only about 4" x 2" and 3.75" x 3/4".

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  4. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    For some reason the obverse of the Philippines notes did not post. What I think are fractional scrip from Dutch Indochona came through fine howevwr.

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  5. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    I can't find any dates on the notes, unless they are written in Japanese, in which case I am clueless.
  6. LSM

    LSM Collector

    Hi pjstack. The 5 pesos note from the Philippines with the V on the obverse is from 1942 and so is the 10 pesos note. The 5 pesos note with the Rizzal Monument on the obverse is from 1943. The value of these note would be about a dollar each in my opinion. The 1 cent Netherlands Indies note in uncirculated condition is worth about 1 or 2 dollars and the 10 cent note in uncirculated condition is worth about 5 dollars.

    Lou
  7. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    Thanks a lot LSM. Are the dates written somewhere on the notes or do you have a reference book?

    I'm guessing that Dutch Indochina is/was part of present day Indonesia. I'll have to look up an old atlas and see where it is/was.

    Thanks again for your help. Any further info you (or anyone else) can add will be appreciated.
  8. LSM

    LSM Collector

    Maybe someone else will be along to give you some more info on these notes. :)

    Lou
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i have a ton of the Phillippines JIM notes here ... might interest you to take a look :) all my notes will have a complete description and usually some historical information about the note.

    There is also a site i found that lists all JIM notes from every country they were issued for. ... can you beleive i never bookmarked it, and now cant find it? lol
  10. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    Thanks Daggarjon! That's a really neat site you have there! And it saved me having to look up who Rizal was, too.

    Now, anyone out there have the scoop on Netherlands Indies occupation currency?

    Thanks again.
  11. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    The Japanese Numismatic Dealers Association catalog includes a comprehensive listing of all Japanese issued coins/currency. The posted notes are in the category "Military Notes of the Pacific War."

    The following list gives the JNDA catalog number, area used in, date, and present value in yen of each note in the condition you have pictured. In the Japanese collectors market retail sales generally occur at or near JNDA catalog prices :

    Tien (10) Cent (Dutch East Indies) #13-61, 1942, 3 varieties, ¥150-2500
    Een (1) Cent (Dutch East Indies) #13-63, 1942, 2 varieties, ¥150
    10 Pesos (Philippines) #13-79, 1942, ¥100
    First 5 Pesos shown (Philippines) #13-89, 1942 <¥100
    Second 5 Pesos shown (Phillipines)#13-80, 1942, ¥100

    The US dollar is currently worth ~¥94.8.

    Where the JNDA catalog differs from a non-Japanese source in descriging a coin or note, I tend to believe JNDA, which actually gives the date of the posted notes as Showa 17, which is the same as 1942 on the western calendar
  12. De Orc

    De Orc Moderator Moderator

    Hopefuly this might help

    Burma

    There are nine notes in this series. All have the "B" block letter. They were issued in 1, 5, and 10 cent small size notes and 1/4, 1/2, 1, 5, 10, and 100 Rupees in the larger notes. Varieties in the block lettering of the small size notes includes a fractional configuration that would bring a type set to 12 notes or more.

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    Malaya

    There are twelve notes in this series. The general issues all have the block letter, "M". Serial numbered notes may or may not have this "M" and can be difficult to find. They were issued in 1, 5, 10, and 50 cents in small size and 1, 5, 10, 100, and 1000 dollars in the larger size.

    There are two kinds of 10 dollar notes and three different 100 dollar notes. Variations in the block lettering of the small notes would produce many additional examples in a collection as well.

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    Netherlands East Indies

    There are seven general issue, "Regeering" notes and three different series in this group. The first series of seven notes were issued in denominations of 1, 5, 10, cent small size and 1/2, 1, 5, and 10 Gulden in the larger size. "S" block letter configurations on the small notes are numerous.

    The second series of two, "Pemerintah Dai Nippon" notes were issued in 100 and 1000 Roepiah with SO block for the 100 and SA block for the 1000 Roepiah.

    The third series of seven, "Dai Nippon Teikoku" notes were issued in 5 and 10 cents similar to the Regeering notes but with a number after the "S" block letter and larger size notes in 1/2, 1, 5, 10, and 100 Roepiah. A total of 16 notes would be for type but variations are numerous.

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    Oceania

    This is the shortest set in JIM. There are four notes, all with the, "O" block letters. Denominations of, 1/2, 1, 10, shillings and a 1 Pound are the general issues. Many replicas and souvenirs are known to exist.

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    Philippines

    There are three series for the Philippines. A total of seven notes in the first series, four notes in the second, and two in the third series for a total of 13 notes of general issue. However, block variations, overprints, counterfeits, propaganda, advertising and other variations can make this group of notes very expansive.

    The first series was issued in 1, 5, 10, and 50 Centavo small size notes and 1, 5, 10, Peso in the larger size. All these notes have the, "P" block letter with variations in configuration and those of 50 Centavo through 10 Peso have the Plantation vignette.

    The second series was issued in 1, 5, 10, and 100 Peso only. All have the Rizal monument vignette. Some notes have serial numbers while others have a two digit block number only.

    The third series was the result of severe inflation. These notes were issued in 100, 500, and 1000 Peso denominations. The 100 Peso is considered rare and not considered a part of the series for most collectors. The 500 Peso note has the Rizal monument and the 1000 Peso is a small size note with, "PU" block letters and is usually ink soaked.
  13. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    Is this the note considered rare? I only have this one note, it was in my great uncle's war stuff collection.

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  14. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    JNDA#13-87 is very common, listed at only ¥400 (~$4.22) in crisp uncirculated condition.
  15. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    YAY! Found it!!!!! http://www.atsnotes.com/catalog/topic/jim.html is the site i was talking about last night! Its a great site showing alot of invasion notes from different countries - they even show Pick Numbers :) i used it alot for my own JIM notes
  16. pjstack

    pjstack Member

    Thanks a lot, everyone! The websites you've referenced have been educational. I never knew about the counterfiet/propaganda issues during WWII either.

    Thanks to Hontonai for an insight into values. If I remember from my tour in Japan (50 years ago) honto means "true" or "it's so" and hontonai means "not true" or "not so". So maybe Hontonai is a contrarian! Anyway, thanks again.
  17. cesariojpn

    cesariojpn Coin Hoarder

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_money#Aftermath

    http://www.papermoneyworld.net/gramsarc/gramsview.asp?key=986

  18. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    My favorite Japanese occupation note is this one. Signed by Thomas Ferebe (bombadier of Enola Gay). he wrote on this note about 10 minutes after dropping the bomb. Its my lil piece of history. Traci :rolleyes:

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  19. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    many thanks cesariojpn! I will have to update my site to reflect this :)
  20. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    He indeed is the guy we so love and adore....I so appreciate the opposite point of view..:smile
  21. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Good memory friend.
    Guess I've been found out!

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