How much do you spend on AT coins?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by JDLawrence, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. JDLawrence

    JDLawrence New Member

    I am fairly new to this site, but I've done some scowering around and searched through the newest aqquisitions topic. It appears to me that at least half of you are buying artificially toned coins. The crazy thing is I'll be looking at a coin that is worth nearly 1,000 and it is AT. On top of that there will be about 10 likes below the picture. Are you guys aware of the difference between AT and NT. I just can't believe so many are being suckered into this toning crap. that's all.
     
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  3. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    Face value for clad coins and melt value for silver.
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Are YOU aware of the difference between NT and AT?
     
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  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Please educate us on the subject of toning Mr. Lawrence! We promise to remain civil when we disagree.
     
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  6. Prime Mover

    Prime Mover Active Member

    Oi, here we go again. Let me go grab my popcorn... :)
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Lol, yes, always a "popular" discussion. I will stay out of this one however. :)
     
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  8. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    To answer the original question, ZERO. Toning's a racket. Toning is a coating of silver sulfide from 40 to 125 nanometers thick (Weimar White's book, "Coin Chemistry"), and the chemical reaction is the SAME whether it's natural or artificial toning. In the long term, silver sulfide will cause microscopic pitting. The same process occurs with flatware, requiring frequent polishing.

    The original source of the sulfur is the atmosphere, the packaging, the albums, or adjacent paper(s), or a combination thereof. That's why they dipped coins 25 to 50 years ago, to get rid of the toning. But in that time span, the toning has formed a second coating. "Purple" toning is especially hard on a coin's surface. Buy and read White's book.
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Without specific examples, your opinion is just that. However, I still suspect that you have tampered with the stats.

    Chris
     
  10. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    How do you know you will disagree? You haven't heard his opinion yet.
     
  11. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Type for yourself, sonny.:oldman:
     
  12. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    I'll pay the same premium as for any original surface coin, based on approximate grade.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I think we've already heard his opinion. Now, we should wait for him to produce the data to back up his opinion.

    Chris
     
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  14. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    At vs nt can be tough to prove. Market acceptance is most important.
     
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  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The fact that he claims that at least half of us are buying AT coins, means that one of us (you or me) is a fool.

    Chris
     
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  16. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I know it's not me. Sorry Chris
     
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  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Weimar White's book is garbage and his opinion on toning is considered the lunatic fringe in the numismatic community. I left that read getting the feeling that he was either part owner or developer in some coin preservation product.
     
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    It is pretty safe to say that I am going to disagree with anyone who refers to it as "toning crap"!
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Lol, I'm just hoping to avoid get banned this time around.
     
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  20. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    None, I only buy them dipped stark white . . .
    . . . okay, kidding.
     
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  21. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    Member Since: Today

    'nuff said.
     
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