Grade opinions/guess the grade on this 1836 bust half

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zaneman, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    In hand the coin has super reflective fields, similar to a pl or dmpl morgan. You can read lettering on a business card from several inches away.
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  3. kanga

    kanga 55 Year Collector

    Looks cleaned to me.
    But if it's in an NGC holder, then it shouldn't be.
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If the coin has Proof like fields that would explain the cleaned look. Hairlines can often be found on coins with Proof like fields due to several things - improper handling over the years, storage in a coin cabinet and sometimes just from being in a bag with other coins.

    Basically any contact the coin has with fabric or cloth could cause those hairlines and make the coin appear to have been cleaned when it was not. I would definitely say the coin was dipped though.
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Numismatist

    Well - like I said it was a nice coin! I do wish PCGS did that - my father has AU58 morgan that is PL, that is also a great looking coin. Nice coin.
  6. ace92

    ace92 New Member

  7. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Of course it has been cleaned, Almost all 180 years old coins that are white are. The coin took a little bath to get the dust off :) The TPG's regularly grade cleaned coins, they do however body bag the harshly cleaned ones. As far as the hairlines though, I am thinking they are on the holder.

    Zaneman can you fill us in on the hairlines, Are they on the holder? If not, does the photo make them look way worse than they really are?

    Anyway, I am liking the coin :)

    Mike
  8. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    im in love..
  9. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    This thread is 4 years old!
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    So ? Still kinda great that we can learn something isn't it ?
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member Supporter

    AU 55. I am guessing they gave it a pass on the cleaning, even though its too harsh for my taste.

    Nice strike though. :)

    Edit: Lol, sorry didn't see it was an old thread, or the grade given it. I disagree with it personally, but it was just my guess they would pass on the cleaning.
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around . Supporter

    Don't see how it got a star with all those hairlines , probably can only see them at a certain angle and NGC missed them . Certainly looks harshly cleaned to me . Put it in a manilla envelope on a window sill for a couple of years , it should look a lot nicer as there is hardly any wear .
  13. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll Moderator

    lol, you must not know Zane. If he says the eye appeal in hand is good I trust that it is good. I think this is a case where an image is making the coin look much less nice than it actually is.

    FYI before he went into business for himself Zane was a grader at Heritage and before that he was a grader at PCGS.
  14. VNeal

    VNeal New Member

  15. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around . Supporter

    Still I can only go by the photos given , and that's what it looked like to me . Guess that's the dangers of grading by pictures .
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Another prooflike coin fooled me!

    Those coins are tough to photograph, and tough to grade from photos too!
  17. frostyluster

    frostyluster New Member

    harshly cleaned au-50 details, net ef-40
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Numismatist

    You do realize this thread is 4 years old and it was graded AU-55 PL- it is revealed somewhere in the middle of this thread.
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around . Supporter

    Good , then I'll be right for once . I'll say it graded AU-55-PL . :)
  20. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Rusty, this is a 5-year-old thread.
  21. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Yeah, and I just noticed the OP Zane never got a like, so now he has "1" :)

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