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  3. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Amazing, isn't it, how attractive a design can become when freed from all the requirements of legends like we have in the US? Add in E Pluribus Unum, In God We Trust, and it wouldn't be nearly as nice a design. Interesting that they decided it was necessary to mark the field with the word "PIEDFORT" in tiny letters.
     
  4. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    My avatar, the last franc. Unfortunately since theer is no holder made to keep it air tight, it has toned. it also has formed a black spot. It's still a neat coin.

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  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Agreed. But this French coin featuring Frédéric Bartholdi is not that great in my opinion. ;) It was issued in 2004 (100th birth anniversary) and shows the statue and the Belfort Lion. Now this new issue, the "Alsace" coin from the Euros des Régions 2012 series, also features him. I like that one, and your 1986 coin, better than the '04 piece ...

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  6. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    4 sols 2 diners 1692, silver .798, weight - 1,809 g., size - 20 mm. Louis XIV.
     

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  7. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    4 sols 1675, silver .798, weight - 1,631 g., size - 19 mm. Louis XIV.
     

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  8. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    5 sols (1/16 of ecu) 1703, silver .798, weight - 1,696 g., size - 20 mm., mintage - 11674512 pcs. Louis XIV.
     

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  9. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    The First Republic.
    5 centimes L' An7 (1797/98), bronze, weight - 10 g., size - 28 mm.
     

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  10. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    The Second Empire.
    2 centimes 1862, bronze, weight - 2 g., size - 20 mm, mintage - 7515196 pcs. Paris Mint. Engraver: Desire-Albert Barre. Ruler: Emperor Napoleon III (1852-1870).
     

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  11. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Those coins have been used for satirical copies or alterations a lot. Some just have counterstamps referring to the battle of Sedan, for example; others say "Vampire" instead of Empire. Here is one; search the web for napoleon iii satirical coin or similar terms ...

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  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I have probably shown those before in other threads, but putting them together in a dedicated topic is a nice idea, Siberian man.

    One of my collecting "sub sections" is a tray of 40 french coins, no less no more, supposed to browse the coinage of France from the begining of royals to nowadays, the last of those forty coins being a 2 euro coin. Another rule I have put to myself is to have coins of similar size for a question of harmony in the look of the whole, but not of similar metal. Hence, you can find a gold écu, a gros tournois, a demi franc from before the revolution, a teston, and after the revolution some gold 40 francs, silver 2 francs or bronze 10 centimes. The bilding of that series isn't completed yet, and rather than leaving holes, I put some coins that don't exactly fill the criteria for being there, but then, the tray is still of 40 coins.

    So here are some of them, the most beautiful and worthy of showing off IMHO :

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    Philippe IV "Le Bel" (1285-1314) - Gros tournois à l'O rond
    Atelier de Lille ? (2 petits points a droite du lis superieur du revers)
    + BNDICTV SIT NOME DNI NRI DEI IhV XPI dans le cercle exterieur, +PHILIPPVS REX dans le cercle interieur, croix au centre
    TVRONVS CIVIS + dans le cercle interieur, chatel tournois au centre, bordure de douze fleurs de lis a l'exterieur
    4.13 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 203



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    Charles VII (1422-1461) - Ecu d'or
    3° emission de 1424, atelier de Toulouse (annelet sous la cinquieme lettre)
    Croisette sur etoile initiale, KAROLVS : DEI : GRATIA : FRANCORVM : REX, Ecu de France couronné
    + XPC : VINCIT : XPC : REGNAT : XPC : IMPERAT, croix arquée, evidée et fleudelisée, cantonnée de quatre coronelles
    3.76 gr, 28 mm
    Ref : Ciani # 617



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    Henri II (1547-1559) - Teston 1555 M
    Atelier de Toulouse (M)
    . HENRICVS II . D . G . FRANCO . REX, buste cuirassé a droite
    XPS . VINCIT . XPS . REGNAT . XPS . IMPER coeur sur croissant, ecu de France couronné accosté de deux H couronnés. M a la pointe de l'ecu
    9.49 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 1271v

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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Henri III (1574-1589) - Demi franc 1587 O
    Atelier de Riom (O sous le buste)
    + HENRICVS . III . D . G . FRAN . ET . POL . REX (monde = Maître CHAMBIGE), buste au col plat a droite
    + SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI . BENEDICTVM . 1587 (rose = Graveur FAURE) croix feuillue avec H horizontale au centre
    6.64 gr - 148.039 exemplaires
    Ref : Dy # 1131, C # 1430, L # 971, Sb # 4716



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    Henri IV (1589-1610) - Demi Franc 1601 M
    Atelier de Toulouse (M et point sous la cinquième lettre)
    HENRICVS . IIII . D . G . FRANC . ET . NAV . REX, buste lauré et cuirassé avec un col plat. A l'exergue 16 M 01.
    trefle SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM . Croix fleuronnée avec H en son centre
    6.81 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 1534 et suiv



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    Louis XIII (1610-1643) - Quart d'ecu d'argent du 3° type 1643 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    LVDOVICVS . XIII . D .G . FR . ET . NAV . REX, buste lauré, drapé et cuirassé a l'antique à droite
    rose SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM . 1643, ecu de France couronné, A à la pointe de l'ecu
    6.86 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 1661v

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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Louis XIV (1643-1715) - Demi ecu au buste juvenile 1648 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    LVD . XIIII . D . G . FR . ET . NAV . REX, buste enfantin a la mèche tombant sur l'epaule, lauré, drapé et cuirassé a droite. Point sous le quatrieme I de XIIII
    rose SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM . 1648, ecu de France couronné, A à la pointe de l'ecu
    13.49 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 1850



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    Louis XV (1715-1774) - Cinquieme d'ecu au bandeau 1759 L
    Atelier de Bayonne (L)
    LUD . XV . D . G . FR . ET . NAV . REX, tête ornée d'un bandeau a gauche
    . SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM rose 17[5]9, ecu ovale couronné entre deux branches de laurier
    5.81 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 2127

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  15. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Louis XVI (1774-1792) - Demi Ecu aux lauriers 1791 A
    Atelier de Paris, 2° semestre de 1791 (.A)
    LUD . XVI . D . G . FR . ET . NAV . REX ., buste habillé a gauche orné du cordon du Saint Esprit. Point sous le D de LUD
    . SIT . NOMEN . DOMINI BENEDICTVM lyre 1791, ecu ovale couronné entre deux branches de laurier, .A sous l'ecu
    Tranche inscrite : DOMINE SALVVM FAC REGEM
    14.70 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 2189

    This coin and the following three give a "shortcut" of how the person of the King was considered through the french revolution : on this one Louis XVI is monarch by Divine right "Ludovicus XVI Deo Gratia Fran. et Nav. Rex"



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    Constitution - 12 deniers 1791 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS, buste drapé a gauche, A sous le buste
    LA NATION LA LOI LE ROI rose 1791 . 3 . DELALIB . faisceau surmonté d'un bonnet phrygien entre deux branches de chêne
    11.82 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 2253

    We now have a King being on the same level as his subjects and the Law. He his king of the french instead of being king of France



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    Constitution - 30 sols 1792 I
    Atelier de Limoges (I)
    . LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS . a l'exergue 1792, buste drapé a gauche
    REGNE DE LA LOI, le genie de la liberté a droite, gravant la CONSTITUTION.
    Dans le champ 30 | SOLS . et I, a l'exergue L'AN 4 DE LA LIBERTE . en deux lignes
    10.16 gr
    Ref : Ciani # 2241

    Louis XVI is still there on the obverse, but the reverse says "the Law is now above all and everything"



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    Convention - Sol aux balances 1793 AA
    Atelier de Metz (AA) refrappe
    REPUBLIQUE FRANCOISE, la table de la loi, avec gravé LES HOMMES SONT EGAUX DEVANT LA LOI en cinq lignes, de part et d'autre une grappe de raisin et des epis de blé, a l'exergue L'AN II
    LIBERTE EGALITE, balance surmontée d'un bonnet phrygien, entourée d'une couronne de chêne, au centre I . S a l'exergue AA 1793 en deux lignes
    10.89 gr
    Ref : Gadoury 2003 # 19

    The King is no more present (he's had been executed on jan 21st the same year), and "humans are equals towards Law"

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  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Republique - 5 centimes l'An 4 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE, buste de la République a gauche, coiffée d'un bonnet phrygien
    5 CENTIMES L'AN 4 . en trois lignes, a l'exergue A
    4.82 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 113/1



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    Bonaparte I° Consul - 20 francs or An 12 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    BONAPARTE PREMIER CONSUL, tête nue a gauche
    REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE, couronne de lauriers entourant 20 FRANCS en deux lignes. A l'exergue . coq . AN 12. . A .
    Tranche inscrite DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE
    6.44 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 510/2

    The revolution has ended, Bonaparte is soon becoming Napoleon I Empereur, as Octavian became Augustus (note the similarities on this portrait with those of Augustus on the "bull butting" denarii), but still unsure of what is going on. We see many contradictory messages for a laïque republic : a consul on obverse, a republic on reverse, a revolutionary calendar (An 12) and ... God save France on the edge...
    Now you know why you find french people so romantic...



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    Louis XVIII (1814-1824) - 2 francs 1823 W
    Atelier de Lille (W)
    LOUIS XVIII ROI DE FRANCE . tête a gauche
    Ecu de france couronné dans une couronne de laurier, dans le champ 2 | F, a l'exergue 1823 W
    Tranche inscrite : DOMINE SALVVM FAC REGEM
    9.97 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 257/50

    Back to Royals !

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  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Charles X (1824-1830) - 2 francs 1826 L
    Atelier de Bayonne (L)
    CHARLES X ROI DE FRANCE . tête a gauche
    Ecu de france couronné dans une couronne de laurier, dans le champ 2 | F, a l'exergue 1826 L
    Tranche inscrite : DOMINE SALVVM FAC REGEM
    9.87 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 258/19



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    Louis-Philippe I° (1830-1848) - 40 francs or 1833 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    LOUIS PHILIPPE I ROI DES FRANÇAIS, tête a gauche
    Couronne de laurier entourant 20 FRANCS en trois lignes. A l'exergue * A
    Tranche inscrite DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE
    12.85 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 546/5



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    Napoleon III Empereur (1852-1870) - 50 francs or 1857 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    NAPOLEON III EMPEREUR, tête nue a droite
    EMPIRE FRANCAIS, tenture couronnée présentant un aigle, de part et d'autre 50 | FR, a l'exergue A 1857 ancre
    Tranche inscrite DIEU PROTEGE LA FRANCE
    16.13 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 547/4

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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Napoleon III Empereur (1852-1870) - 10 centimes 1862 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    NAPOLEON III EMPEREUR 1962, tête laurée a gauche
    * EMPIRE FRANCAIS * DIX CENTIMES, aigle de face, les ailes deployees, A en dessous
    Tranche lisse
    10.02 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 134/5



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    3° republique - 10 centimes 1872 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    * REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE * 1872, tête de Cérès a gauche
    * LIBERTE * EGALITE * FRATERNITE, couronne de lauriers et d'olivier avec au centre 10 CENTIMES en deux lignes, A dessous
    Tranche lisse
    9.90 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 135/8



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    3° republique - 1 franc 1888 A
    Atelier de Paris (A)
    . REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE ., tête de Cérès a gauche
    LIBERTE . EGALITE . FRATERNITE, couronne de lauriers et d'olivier avec au centre 1 FRANC 1888 en trois lignes, a l'exergue A
    Tranche cannelée
    5.00 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 216/10

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  19. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    3° republique - 1 franc 1901
    REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE, semeuse allant a gauche
    LIBERTE . EGALITE . FRATERNITE, 1 FRANC en deux lignes, en dessous une branche d'olivier, a l'exergue 1901
    Tranche cannelée
    5.00 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 217/6



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    3° republique - 2 francs 1910
    REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE, semeuse allant a gauche
    LIBERTE . EGALITE . FRATERNITE, 2 FRANCS en deux lignes, en dessous une branche d'olivier, a l'exergue 1910
    Tranche cannelée
    10.00 gr
    Ref : Le Franc VIII # 266/10
    Ex Victor Gadoury collection

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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Encroyable, Cucumbor!!
     
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