Coin Show Security

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JCB1983, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    I didn't really know how to phrase this question, but it is targeted more towards dealers. How would I go about advertising my services for Coin Show Security correctly? I happen to live in Southern Maryland and will be at the Baltimore Expo for atleast 2 days. I am not of deep pockets and could use some extra money for the show. Here is my background. I have no record, have an honorable discharge from the Army (Served in both Iraq and Afghanistan), and have a security clearance from the ATF/Department of Justice from a previous security job. How should I advertise my services, and how much should I charge? I have heard of other members on this forum working security in the past, and imagine it more as loss prevention+transportation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    ~Jason
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  3. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Protection services, i dont know if people are allowed to carry in coin show, concealed weapons permit may help. Just say "Protection and Escort services". One thing is i wouldn't work high-profile dealers alone though.
  4. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    Is it possible for you to make one decision in your life without asking everyone here for their opinion?
  5. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    I'm sorry sir, but I have never worked security for a coin show. I would like to hear the expectations from a Dealer's perspective. If it is indeed more than a one man job assignment than it wouldn't be very professional to approach my enlisted help (one of which is a retired policeman, and the other a former Army Ranger and Blackwater security) with a blank canvas.
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    One guy, coming out of nowhere, offering to transport someone's high end coins.

    Need I say more?
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Moderator Moderator

    Most coin shows employ off duty police as security.
  8. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Are off duty police allowed to wear uniform/duty belt with their firearm?
  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Moderator Moderator

    At every show I have seen them at they are in full uniform.
  10. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Allowed to arrest people and put them in their patrol car off duty?

    (off topic; is the new episode of coin show coming out tommorow)
  11. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Actually yes you should say more. How about "I'm sorry" for making such a rude comment. Forgive me for being naive and inquiring about possible work at the upcomming Baltimore Expo. I forgot there are no more honest honorable people left on this planet and that inquiring about such a question would invoke accusations of criminalism. Just for the record my name is Jason Becker, I work at Southern Maryland Pawn Brokers in Waldorf M.D. and either one of my bosses (both retired D.C. police officers) can vouch for me, as well as the hundreds of other men who served with me in the 82nd Airborne. If you are not aware I have documented many pictures on this site, not to mention have almost twice as much posts are you do.

    http://www.cointalk.com/t200150/
  12. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Thank You LD for clearing that up. Finally a real answer. Sheesh.
  13. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    My answer wasn't real? :eek::(
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Moderator Moderator

    I have never seen someone get arrested at a show... But I imagine they might radio an active duty to come transport.

    (and off topic yes)
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Lol, it's not that serious man.

    If you felt I was being rude, oh well. I was making an honest statement about how what you are inquiring about would be viewed by coin dealers.
  16. Log Potato

    Log Potato Barberous

    Not every security guy at coin shows is ushering MS66 Flowing Hair dollars. Sometimes, they man doors or casually stroll isles. Plus, I don't think he was offering to usher any coins.
  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Jason,
    The high end dealers may hire off duty police. They pay the local police department & the police department pays their police officer. He is actually on duty in this case but the officer is probably working overtime. It is rare to see uniformed police on the floor like this but they are present at some shows. Many shows have their own security personnel on the floor in plain clothes. I know one guy that works security at Westchester NY and he is also a paper money collector. I've also seen flashlight cops (that might be worthless in a serious situation) guarding doors . My only advice might be for you to contact the show organizer & ask them specifically what you might do to become involved with the specific show.
  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Wouldn't someone taking work like this need to be bonded or otherwise insured?
  19. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    That would make sense if Jason is going to make it his business.

    I think that the first step would be to contact the show organizer & see what they have in place.
  20. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Not sure if I can help but I can tell you from my previous jobs at a jewelry company.

    All of our security were former cops. They must also have a security license and of course have a clean record. We had a few guards that walked around with a gun in the building at all times. And none of them had to wear uniforms or anything that said security or guard on their shirt.

    Funny thing is one of the security guards is a coin collector. Too bad I lost touch with him after I left.
  21. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

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