Ancients: Specialties within specialities

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  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is the crab claw hand type matching Steve's.
     
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Of the three vcoins specimens you showed I believe you have the middle one.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The Papia matter gets more interesting the more I look. Wildwinds has a great list:
    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/rsc/papia/i.html
    Their type 122 is listed as snake/dog but if you click on text for that coin you will see that CNG sold the example under the name lizard which I consider a better answer. The two symbols on one coin are suppose to relate in some way but the relarion is not always obvious to us. One I like is a rectangle with letters on it (P for one) and an urn of some type. The rectangle is a ballot and the urn is a ballot box. The P on the ballot shows it was filled out to vote for Papius. I'd like to see a really clear one to see how much more is on that ballot. The Wildwind listing says PAPI but I don't see it on their photo.
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Doug => that's a good/useful link ... #122 shows an example of my coin

    => yup, the good ol' infamous 'Snake & Dog-lizard' variety ... as you all know, Dog-lizards are now quite rare, so obviously this coin's value has risen significantly!!


    ;)
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Man, there are quite a few total winners ...

    => I really like #14 (bucranium & double-axe)
     
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    I just purchased my latest Tribute Penny based on the style of legs. The other 4 I own are all straight leg. Typically I do not collect variations of a certain series, but I've always wanted a Tribute with the decorative legs.
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice ... you're correct

    Martin => that is an excellent link!! (thanks for that)
     
  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I am waiting for a camp-gate collector to admit he cares about the difference between a gate with 6 layers of stones and a gate with 7 layers of stones. Or, maybe they don't consider that a specialty within a specialty?
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't care much about the number of layers of stone, but I do want one with doors.
     
  12. Now i'm going to go home w/ a magnifying glass and count the stones on my camp gates. I didn't know they varied in this way.
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is it me or have we heard less about campgates lately? A few years ago there were several name collectors with a lot of varieties but I recall a couple of the collections appearing for sale. I suspect campgates by layers is less fashionable now than it was so it might be possible to get some without the crazy prices. I do agree with Bing that doors are nice.
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  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic


    I always found campgates no different then Genius reverse...boring. But I do like the ones with open doors. I only have 1 campgate but its nothing special. One day I will get a open door one but not a priority.
     
  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    constantine I rocks a.jpg constantine I rocks b.jpg constantine II rocks a.jpg constantine II rocks b.jpg constantius II rocks a.jpg constantius II rocks b.jpg


    Sorry, but I couldn't resist tossin' out a few of my campgates with doors on 'em ...

    Constantine I
    Constantine II
    Constantius II


    :)
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Another lil' mini-specialty within' a specialty is C. Piso L.F. Frugi

    I only have one variety so far, but apparently there are several different varieties of these awesome coins:


    c piso lf frugi a.jpg c piso lf frugi b.jpg


    I have the variety with the rider crackin' a whip!! (plus there are a variety of symbols involved on the obverse and reverse) ... I'm sure there is a dude out there that'll know a whole lot more than I know about this super-cool series (please chime-in)
     
  17. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I am still wayyyy too newbie to have any sort of speciality. I mean sure I focus on Alexandrian tetradrachms when I am buying coins but that is just due to limited funds.
     
  18. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Yay a companion in zorro-nes:D.
     
  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Alexandria is a dangerous specialty for those of us on a budget. There are some really special Alexandria coins. Certainly the later tetradrachms are still reasonable but any of the bronzes and the earlier tets are getting difficult.
     
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  20. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    My only subspecialty i study at the moment is my crazy little sogdian cross collection. They are the only ones i study die differences actively.
     
  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here are a few of my Papius....

    Symbol variety – RRC -. Babelon -. BMCRR -. Dolphin wrapped around anchor / Hippocamp
    The only known example.

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    Symbol variety – RRC 19. Babelon 100. BMCRR 19. - hunter's net / 2 spears

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    Symbol variety – RRC 150. Babelon 149. BMCRR -. Harpa / Winged Petasos

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    Symbol variety – RRC 76. Babelon 76. BMCRR 12. Owl / Crow/eagle with opened wings

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    Symbol variety – RRC -. Babelon -. BMCRR -. Shoe / Sandal. Another unpublished symbol pair with five examples currently known. This is likely the best of the five examples. (according to Richard Schaefer at the BM)

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