2013 West Point ASE set

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by PeacePeople, May 9, 2013.

  1. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    You never know. If the big flippers have a brain, you'd think they'd cancel a bunch, as this set won't do anything in the short term, just going to tie up their money.
     
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  3. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    comparison:
    reverse proof single coin:
    2006p - 248,875
    2011p - 100,000
    2012s - 224,981
    2013w - 281,310 (mintage can be lower)

    burnished and enhanced uncirculated:
    2006w - 466,573
    2007w - 621,333
    2008w - 436,702
    2011w - 409,927
    2011s - 100,000
    2012w - 230,872
    2013w - 281,310 enhanced unc. (mintage can be lower)
    2013w - 104,570 (not final)
     
  4. dave92029

    dave92029 Member

    You forgot THE KEY Date for the ASE set: 1995W total mintage 30,102 (only sold in a set with four gold AGE) !!!


     
  5. dave92029

    dave92029 Member

    You also got the 2012S wrong

     
  6. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    The 2012s RP is correct at 224K, the 2012s proof from the set s/b added at 282,766 and counting.
     
  7. bg35765

    bg35765 Member

    A point of reference on the last couple of hours:

    I put in an order at 3:30 p.m. and another at 4:45 p.m. My order numbers are only about 1400 apart. So if the average person was ordering a set or two, that accounted for only a few thousand of the 30,000 sold in the last 2 hours. This means that the big buyers must have went back for more and put in a few orders of thousands of sets in each.

    If the aftermarket performance is poor, those sets will be cancelled before the 9/30 ship date and it will be a repeat of last year where 25,000 sets were cancelled or returned.
     
  8. YoYoSpin

    YoYoSpin Active Member

    I'll come back to this thread in September and see how the soap opera turns out.
     
  9. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Or the mint "played with"/held back sales reporting to keep sales up.
     
  10. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    well most/all people still have the option to cancel their order right? Do you have the cancel option available until they ship the item? Not sure how that works.....
     
  11. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    Most of the big flippers get em graded, they will make money. Pretty much break even on 69's but make good bank on their sets that comeback 70's.
     
  12. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Yep, I'm canceling 3 of the 5 I ordered. I'll have to call in because I ordered all in 1 order, so I can only cancel the whole order online.
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    My cancel box is still there.
     
  14. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Depends what the price does. They were already way over priced for their PM value, now over priced for their mintage. Grading may be throwing good money after bad.
     
  15. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    They'll make money, wait and see. I think it was Silvertowne was preselling MS70 sets for $259 and they sold out fast. Price will probably be higher when re-listed.

    By no means am i saying they will be a huge winner, but the big boys will make a comfortable margin imo.
     
  16. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    let's check the mintage of ASE proof version:
    for "S" mint mark:
    1986s-1,446,778
    1987s - 904,732
    1988s - 557,370
    1989s - 617,694
    1990s - 695,510
    1991s - 511,924
    1992s - 498,543
    2012s - 282,766 (lowest "S" mint mark)

    for "P" mint mark:
    1993p - 405,913
    1994p - 372,168 (lowest "P" mint mark)
    1995p - 407,822
    1996p - 498,293
    1997p - 440,315
    1998p - 450,728
    1999p - 549,330
    2000p - 600,743

    for "W" mint mark:
    1995w -- 30,102 (lowest "W" mint mark) also (lowest of all mint mark)
    2001w - 746,398
    2002w - 647,342
    2003w - 747,831
    2004w - 801,602
    2005w - 816,663
    2006w-1,092,477
    2007w - 821,759
    2008w - 700,979
    2010w - 849,861
    2011w - 950,000
    2012w - 819,217
    2013w - 556,954 (not final)
     
  17. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Maybe. But, those sales were based on a lower expected mintage. Like I said, I'm canceling 3. If I bought thousands of sets, I'd cancel half, hoping others do the same, forcing a mintage that's a winner. If the mintage doesn't drop enough to make a winner, at least I cut my exposure in half.
     
  18. phalanxcronos

    phalanxcronos Member

    I ordered five sets the first day and I'm sticking to that, I'm not even sure if I could cancel I have the check box but there's no place to specify how many to cancel and I'm taking no chances that if I hit cancel that it will be on the next page!

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  19. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    what we need for next year is a "D" mint mark for american eagle silver dollar. a proof "D" mint mark. a reverse proof "D" mint mark. a burnished unc "D" mint mark. don't forget, a burnished unc "P" mint mark too.
     
  20. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    after reviewing the figures and previous mintage of all american eagle silver dollars. i cancelled all my order too. looks like bullion ASE is the best to own so far.
     
  21. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I think each Federal Reserve bank should have their own minting facility...they can use mint marks "A" through "L".
     
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