1968 S Double Die Penny

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by wrestlover, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. wrestlover

    wrestlover Junior Member

    Hello everyone,

    I'm pretty sure this is a double die penny. First, I examined the coin with a magnifying glass, and then I scanned it in the scanner a couple of times, and the results look to be positive. When I first found this coin, I was surprised at how shiny the coin was. I've been collecting pennies for years and wouldn't think a coin from 1968 would be so shiny. At first glance, without scanning the coin, it looked like it was well taken care of.

    Here are some images of the coin and tell me what you think, please:

    http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4082/imagek.png

    http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4907/image2yx.png

    I saw on Ebay a similar coin was being sold for $105 or Best Offer, but this article and quote made me think the price was being underestimated:

    http://coins.about.com/b/2007/10/17/man-finds-44000-penny-in-fifty-cent-roll-of-coins.htm

    "This date (along with the 1968-S and 1970-S cents) is the most notorious for this form of doubling damage occurring on Lincoln cents."

    The 1968-S double die penny is linked to the 1969-S double die penny now, so couldn't it even possibly be auctioned for the same price? $126,500? Also, from what I heard, 1968 S Double Die pennies aren't even listed in rare coin booklets.

    I need help determining whether I'm right or wrong about what I have said and what the next step is.

    Thank you
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  3. TomCorona

    TomCorona New Member

    I'll handle this one gang. Eh Hem....

    That would be machine doubling. No premium..in fact....it's considered damage. By God...don't clean it though...it'll be worth even less.

    How was that?
  4. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot

    Doubling is flat not circular meaning that its Machine doubling.
    Also its the 68-s, 69-s,70-s That are notorious for machine doubling

    A double die you can easily find is the 1995 D penny. theyre actually so abundant theyre quite worthless in my area.
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks, Tom

    Note:
    1) A DoubleD Die.
    2) Cent, not a penny.
  6. Jesse P

    Jesse P eagle eye

    i have a penny with the exact same markings on the date and the w in we.i posted pics yesterday.after searching and asking it is a smudging of the letters numbers not double stamped.it is rare peice i think because yours is the only one ive seen like mine.hope i can help.:)but they are not valuable from my knowledge.
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Moderator Moderator


    I agree with others. While there is doubling on this coin it is not a doubled die. There are different kinds of doubling that can occur on coins. Most of it is a result of the actual stamping process or the dies themselves wearing down. This kind of doubling is in fact very common and doesn't carry a premium at all. A doubled die occurs when the die used to stamp the coins is made incorrectly and there is doubling. Most doubled dies themselves are very common as well with very few of them bringing more then 1$-5$. To the trained eye there are differences between a true doubled die and the mechanical doubling we have here. On a mechanical doubled coin the doubling will have a stair step look to it. A doubled die will most always be on the same level as far as the doubling is concerned. If you happen to have any 1944 cents laying around get a good magnifying glass and look at the left sides of the 4's specifically the points. There is what was called master hub doubling that year and most of the 4's show a form of doubling that is from the dies... this is a good comparison to use when learning to identify a real doubled die.

    Hope this helps!
  8. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Please get the books, a Cherry Pickers Guild and Error

    Please get the books, a Cherry Pickers Guild and Error Coin Encyclopedia - this coin is common mechanical type doubling. Also there is no Lincoln other than 1970-S DDO-001 or 1958-P DDO-001 that are in the same league as the 1969-S DDO-001 - those three are king!
  9. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi and WELCOME!

    Another thing to mention is that there are a ton of machine doubled coins being erroneously sold on Ebay as doubled dies. You should never use Ebay as a Guide for errors or die varieties.

    While there are folks that sell on Ebay that know what they are doing and have doubled dies labeled correctly, they are far outnumbered by people who are clueless and selling junk.

    Thanks,
    Bill
  10. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    Wrestlover, I hope what has been said makes sense and if there are any questions or problems you'll return and post them. Good luck with your continued variety searches.
  11. leo68

    leo68 New Member

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    coop Senior Member

  13. AncientRomeCoin

    AncientRomeCoin New Member

    does your coin have a raised head I have one and I was wondering if it was an error
  14. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I doubt very much that you'll find a 'double die' on the koinpro site. There is no such a thing as 'double die', however, look on the site and you'll learn what a 'doulblED die' is.
  15. g_k720

    g_k720 New Member

    Im new to collecting and have yet to actually find a doubleD die coin--but i took the advice of the duthcman and looked at my 100 plus 44's and they were all flat and showed no signs of any doubling---am i missing something? I use a 60x microscope to view.
  16. g_k720

    g_k720 New Member

    sorry "dutchman"
  17. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    5X or 7X should be enough magnification to see doubling. At 60X you may not be able to see the forest for the trees.
  18. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hobo I think you are the smartest one on here. there is a guy on the Coneca forum that keeps asking questions about all types of just common junk. He is trying to use a microscope to search for error coins,I told him to throw that thing in the trash and use nothing higher than a 10x loupe. If you have to use a microscope to see something then it's mostlikely no good anyway.....
  19. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Thanks, rascal.
  20. g_k720

    g_k720 New Member

    I see thanks guys

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