1922 PEACE DOLLAR, High Relief and Low Relief CONFUSED

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  1. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    I have a 1922 Peace dollar, I have been reading about the High Relief and Low Relief and I got confused. Please explan the differnce between the Two. Here is some links I have been reading about the coin. http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dollars/peace_dollars/1922_peace_dollar.htm
    http://www.coinworld.com/news/082701/news-1.asp

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-relief
    http://www.cubannumismaticassociation.com/CNANL-02/HighRelief.html


    Now is is my 1922 Peace Dollar. I know it is not top of the line. Many issures with it. I have taken photos of it in the sun outdoors, In different lights in the house. I think the coin is a Low Relief and there is some Machine doubling and what else. Thank you for your help in understanding this. Cheryl

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Easiest way for you to understand it would be for you to compare a '21 Peace and a '22 Peace side by side. You'll see the difference immediately.
     
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  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Appalachian Mountains = Low Relief

    Rocky Mountains = High Relief

    The Rocky Mountains stand higher above the Earth's surface than the Appalachian Mountains.

    Hope this makes sense.
     
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  5. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    The differance is the height that the design elements stick out from the surface. a simply explaination here are two different coins the first one is high relief , the second coin is low relief See how the detail sticks out on the high relief coin in comparison to the low relief coin.This all has to do with the strike I would say by looking at your pics it does appear to be a low relief coin you have.

    Jazzcoins joe
     

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  6. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    High relief 1922 Peace Dollars were only struck in Matte Proof and there are between 10-20 known to survive. All of the circulating 1922 high relief Peace Dollars are believed to be destroyed, all 35,401 of them.
     
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  7. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector


    Interesting, I didn't know they were circulated. I thought they were sold to collectors. You learn something new everyday. BTW why do they believe they were destroyed, the coins never make it into circulation by the general public? Did they just get sent to the Fed. reserve banks and than get recalled and melted?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There is one genuine example known to still exist. It's in an NGC slab.
     
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  9. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie

    Thank you all for your help, I think I got it now. Hobo, I like your explanation. Cheryl
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    How can this coin be legal if they were all supposed to be melted ?
    rzage:D:whistle:
     
  11. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I'm really not sure Tater, I was just giving a brief description of what I read in the article that I pasted along with my post. Interesting questions though.
     
  12. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Doug, I didnt know there was only one. No wonder they're so hard to find. I bet there's one heck of a bidding war when it hits the block.
     
  13. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    No problem, just trying to learn a bit more about the series. Its not like I'll be able to ever afford one.
     
  14. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I have read quite a bit about this series but not much about this particular coin, not in great detail anyway. Maybe because of the same reason you said, I'll never afford it either. Last sale I believe: NGC Matte Proof 65 Goldbergs Jan. 2004, the coin sold for $86,250.00. A little too much for me right now. Maybe after I win the PA lottery..lol
     
  15. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector


    At least you have a chance, Utah has no lottery and Idaho is to far to go to buy a ticket.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Easiest way to tell if you have a 22 high relief if you don't have a 21 handy for comparison purposes is to look for certain die characteristics.

    On the obv look at the spike just to the right of the E in LIBERTY. On the high relief it comes to just about the top edge of the bottom leg of the E. On the low relief it extends higher to the level of the middle bar of the E. (See the pictures in Jazz's post and the first picture in the original post.

    On the reverse look at the spike that pierces the right vertical of the N in ONE. On the high relief it continues ending almost above the center of the O. On the low relief it does not extend past the left vertical of the N. (Once again see the pictures in Jazz's post and the third picture in the original post.)

    There is also a diference where the point of the bust pierces the 9 but it is more subtle. Those other two features will allow you to identify a 22 high relief at arms length with no comparison coin needed.
     
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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not that they were supposed to be melted, it's that they were supposedly melted. Big difference in the two words.
     
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  18. cherylkubucko

    cherylkubucko Grandma Froggie


    Thanks I got it now. Thay helped alot. Cheryl
     
  19. dzzyjme29

    dzzyjme29 Junior Member

    I actually had the same question about the 1922 peace dollar . You guys are very specific and helpful. Much to my disappointment, I am afraid to say I do not posess a 1922 High Relief peace dollar. The pictures along with the description from Conder101 really helped. EDITED
    Thank you!
     
  20. Nic Vanfleet

    Nic Vanfleet New Member

  21. Shania Henderson

    Shania Henderson New Member

    I have a 1922 peace dollar just wondering would the high relief look more bronze or silver?
     
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