captbly2k

I've just come upon an estate and it has an oddball.
Just can't find it in any of my ref books.
(Sorry, no scan/pic)

Obverse(?) = Bank of Upper Canada (around top)
image of St. George slaying the dragon (centered image)
1857 (at bottom)

Reverse(?) = Bank Token (around top)
image is a crest like design of two powder horns at bottom, two crossed fouled anchors in center, topped with a crown (centered image)
One Penny (at bottom)

This coin is holed and the "chaff" from drilling has been hammerd down.
The hole is across the "NN" in PENNY and "R C" in UPPER CANADA.

Any help in identifying and valuation would be appreciated.

Brent

jody526

Brent,
I don't believe it's a high dollar item, and I'm sure the hole doesn't help.
Here's a few links that might help:

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LINK #4

jody526

Here's a picture:

LINK #5

tradernick

I see these routinely. They come in collections or estates. These were made in penny and half-penny denominations. I think this year so far I've had 2 or 3 of them. And for some reason they almost always come holed or heavily worn. All of the ones I've seen have been dated in the 1850's. Last month I had a pretty nice vf/xf example that I sold for $11. The ugly ones I usually try to sell for about $5. Hope this info helps.

Nick

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hhearst

I've sold about a dozen of them on Ebay. The have gone between .99c and 8.00 for one's without holds. They are very collectible but not expensive. I once heard that they are frequently holed because people used to nail them to walls. I have no idea if that is true or not. If I had a holed one, I would most likely put that in a damaged bulk lot.

Hope that helps.
- Hal

captbly2k

Thanks everyone!
You've been a great help!
This is why I'm glad I joined this group.

Aidan Work

The Bank of Upper Canada's tokens are very interesting,as they are affectionately known as St George Pieces.They were issued in 2 denominations
- 1/2d. & 1d. The first ones are dated 1850,which exist only in medal alignment.Some of the 1d.'s have a dot between the cornucopiae tips,but the significance of this is uncertain.In 1852,there are 2 main varieties.The clue is in the alignment.If it is in 'medal alignment' (heads & tails upright),then the piece was struck at the Royal Mint in London,
England.If it is in 'coin alignment' (heads & tails upside down in relation to one another),then the piece was struck at Heaton's Mint in Birmingham,
England.The 1857's are very underrated pieces,as very few of them were actually issued prior to Canada's decimal changeover,which occurred in 1858.I had to wait years to get them.A pair of them turned up in a Wellington Coin Club auction,
so I bought them.The letters 'RK & Co' is not a mintmark.This is the mark of Rowe,Kentish,& Co.,
who were the agents that the coin orders were put through.

Aidan Work

Happy St. George's Day for Sunday with greetings all the way from New Zealand!

Aidan.

Cloudsweeper99

I bought a few of these about a year ago, both half penny and penny. My recollection was that all of them were probably F/VF/EF and priced between $5 and $9 depending on condition. The hole will most likely decrease the value a lot because it is easy to buy fairly nice circulated coins.