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Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 11-07-2009, 06:34 PM   #1 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 459 My Mood: 1898 dollar : Your help needed again 1898 p dollar what grade would you give Remember its the best pics with a mobile phone i could get Dave Attached Thumbnails         __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   11-07-2009, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink) Mark Feld Rare coin dealer     Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,668 Maybe it's just the image, but I'm not even 100% certain it's genuine. Assuming it is, my grade guess is between AU58 and MS63. Sorry, that's the best I can do with the pictures provided.   11-07-2009, 06:58 PM   #3 (permalink) raider34 Morgans Morgans Morgans     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,008 My Mood: I agree with Mark it's hard to tell from the pics, but imo from the pics it looks like the coin has been cleaned. One give away is the dirt that is still left in some of the denticles, the stars, and the date. __________________ WINS# 801 http://www.banknotebank.com/?collection=raider34 My WWII Paper Money Collection   11-07-2009, 06:58 PM   #4 (permalink) Phil Ham Hamster     Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 517 My first guess was MS63. It looks legit to me but Mark is a far better judge than me on spotting fakes.   11-07-2009, 07:01 PM   #5 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 459 My Mood: Why is every thing i post is asked is it genuine its genuine and thanks for your quick reply mark i know the pics are not the best took them in day light i was trying to show the luster it must not have worked back to the drawing board dave __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   11-07-2009, 07:49 PM   #6 (permalink) Phil Ham Hamster     Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 517 Quote: Originally Posted by raider34 I agree with Mark it's hard to tell from the pics, but imo from the pics it looks like the coin has been cleaned. One give away is the dirt that is still left in some of the denticles, the stars, and the date. You might be right but it could also be shading from the light. If it was cleaned, it was a very gentle cleaning.   11-07-2009, 08:00 PM   #7 (permalink) raider34 Morgans Morgans Morgans     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,008 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by Phil Ham You might be right but it could also be shading from the light. If it was cleaned, it was a very gentle cleaning. True, another thing though is the color, if the pics are accurate, usually the lack of luster with that really white color is indicative of a cleaning, or an over dipping. But I agree it was probably a light cleaning, or over dipped, because I can't see any hairlines. __________________ WINS# 801 http://www.banknotebank.com/?collection=raider34 My WWII Paper Money Collection   11-07-2009, 08:04 PM   #8 (permalink) Phil Ham Hamster     Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Posts: 517 Yes, you could be right about the dipping. I have a few morgans that have a similar color. I was hoping that it was just natural coloring but perhaps it is that evil dipping thing. I love the art of coin collecting. It almost makes you question everything; it's like Columbo Mumbo Jumbo!   11-07-2009, 08:15 PM   #9 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 459 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by raider34 true, another thing though is the color, if the pics are accurate, usually the lack of luster with that really white color is indicative of a cleaning, or an over dipping. But i agree it was probably a light cleaning, or over dipped, because i can't see any hairlines. i like the morgans and i have quite have a few i would not alter pics so the color is wrong and it can be done i just say it like it is dave ps its midnight here so am going to bed ill fight with you tomorow dave lol __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   11-07-2009, 08:27 PM   #10 (permalink) chip chip   Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 583 Blog Entries: 14 nice coin, does it have a good cartwheel effect? If so I would give it a ms-62. __________________ E Pluribus FUN!   11-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #11 (permalink) raider34 Morgans Morgans Morgans     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,008 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by davemac i like the morgans and i have quite have a few i would not alter pics so the color is wrong and it can be done i just say it like it is dave ps its midnight here so am going to bed ill fight with you tomorow dave lol Thanks for the heads up, it will give me time to sharpen my axe. Lol, but don't get me wrong I wasn't saying you were altering the pics, just that the pics might be off because they were taken from a camera phone. __________________ WINS# 801 http://www.banknotebank.com/?collection=raider34 My WWII Paper Money Collection   11-08-2009, 02:13 AM   #12 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,305 My Mood: No doubt in my mind that the coin is genuine, I think the color is off due to maybe an acetone bath? Or like Raider said, could be an over-dipping. Not a whole lot of luster, and some small spots of wear. I'd say AU55 __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   11-08-2009, 06:07 AM   #13 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 459 My Mood: 3rd time lucky is what they say New pics no croping i just Resized Dave Attached Thumbnails     __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   11-08-2009, 09:25 AM   #14 (permalink) Market Harmony collector and deal maker   Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: western PA Posts: 40 If it hadn't been cleaned, I'd say low MS. But I think that it has been cleaned, so I'm going with AU55. I don't like to give cleaned coins a "slider" status   11-08-2009, 10:01 AM   #15 (permalink) Scrumhalf2 Junior Member   Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 102 Novice opinion here but I agree with the cleaning the color/luster is very flat for the condition   Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 > Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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