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LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 11-03-2009, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink) MrSnert Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Edward 1st Farthing I found an Edward 1st Farthing whilst metal detecting in a garden. It's been examined by Spinks and they are not sure if it is from the Newcastle mint or the Bristol mint. I could be either of those. They have determined it to be extremely fine and it's currently up for auction at Warwick & Warwick on the 9th December 2009 if anyone is interested. If it is from the Newcastle mint there are only 12 others known and this would make the total known to 13.   11-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink) pappy-o coinoisseur     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 767 My Mood: Welcome to Coin Talk MrSnert !   11-04-2009, 04:38 AM   #3 (permalink) MrSnert Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Thank you   11-04-2009, 07:45 PM   #4 (permalink) andy21us Coin Hoarder     Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,139 My Mood: Welcome to the Forum! __________________ To honor fallen PJ who have died in the line of Duty, that others may live.   11-04-2009, 08:48 PM   #5 (permalink) MrSnert Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Cheer. Been learning a huge amount about coins since I started detecting. Really interesting. Love it.   11-05-2009, 01:41 PM   #6 (permalink) BNB Analytics Online Dealer & Analyst     Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,438 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Hi, welcome to CT! __________________ Wisdom from the Bull & the Bear(BNB): "Always find the true value of your investment. How you may ask? By seeing what others like us are willing to pay for that same item. Forget dealer's opinions and price guides; the real value comes from what we're willing to pay from sites like ebay or heritage.."   11-12-2009, 03:23 PM   #7 (permalink) misterpunch Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3 Quote: Originally Posted by MrSnert I found an Edward 1st Farthing whilst metal detecting in a garden. It's been examined by Spinks and they are not sure if it is from the Newcastle mint or the Bristol mint. I could be either of those. They have determined it to be extremely fine and it's currently up for auction at Warwick & Warwick on the 9th December 2009 if anyone is interested. If it is from the Newcastle mint there are only 12 others known and this would make the total known to 13. Edward I farthing. Hi, I am very curious about your farthing. Can you send me a photo of it and I'll get right back to you with an identification (presuming the coin is in good condition). It seems amazing that Spinks could not help you. I'm also interested, where did you get the information about a dozen Newcastle farthings known. To send a photo, my email is brad.shepherd@talk21.com. All the best, Brad   11-12-2009, 03:43 PM   #8 (permalink) MrSnert Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 The mint id is not visible on the coin. It is the only part of the coin that is not legible. Spinks and Holloways both told me that there are only 12 known Newcastle minted farthings. Spinks wanted to help and correctly identified the coin but as I say the mint mark is not visible. I am waiting for the auctioneers to send me through some high quality scans as the coin is so small that pictures are either blurred or too dark.   11-13-2009, 05:20 PM   #9 (permalink) mpcusa Online Dealer of Mpc     Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 325 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Welcome to our Forum!!   11-13-2009, 05:34 PM   #10 (permalink) giorgio11 Senior Member   Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 207 My Mood: Welcome MrSnert, incredibly cool find with your metal detector, sure beats all those 1943 steel cents I dug up a couple of decades ago back in Texas. __________________ www.VDBCoins.com Lincolns, Kennedys, & More See my Kennedy Half Registry Sets under "VDB Coins" http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/default.aspx?c=16   11-16-2009, 07:00 AM   #11 (permalink) misterpunch Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3 Hi MrSnert I had a look at the Warwick & Warwick online catalogue - it's lot 382. Nice find and the fact it flipped over during striking adds interest and tells so much about the way these coins were produced (and the pressure on the workers to make coins quickly). Anyway, I've had a good look at it and it seems that Spinks may have got themselves a little confused. The weight of the coin is .6 gr. That's too heavy for a farthing and is the correct weight for a halfpenny. As the coin flipped over in the die when struck, all that can be read of the obverse legend is: I TAS .... AnGL' No Edward I, II or III farthings with an obvserse legend that ends AnGL' It's a bit disappointing that Spinks suggested it was a Newcastle farthing. The obverse legend of these little coins is: +ERAN GLIE and there is no inner circle on the obverse of these farthings. The following website has an example of a Newcastle farthing: http://hammered_farthings.tripod.com/edward-i-farthings/newcastle.htm Based on the size of the coin, the weight, the crown and the king's portrait, my guess is that it's a Richard II, halfpenny. I can't remember for certain, but I think Richard II halfpennies were only struck in London - a quick check in the Spinks English Coinage book will tell you. NONE OF THIS DETRACTS FROM YOUR COIN. As I said at the start, it is a lovely find and interesting to collectors of English Hammered coins. Hope this identification helps and wishing you every luck with the sale. I am always happy to help identify/classify hammered farthings and halfpennies (no charge of course) -though my experience is limited to medieval halfpennies and farthings only. All the best, Brad   11-16-2009, 07:04 AM   #12 (permalink) MrSnert Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Hi, Thanks for the info. Still new to this coin mallarky but learning all the same. I've been waiting for the coin to appear on their site. I hadn't realised it was on there. Thanks, Lee   11-16-2009, 07:17 AM   #13 (permalink) misterpunch Junior Member   Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3 Hi Lee, The photos are at: http://www.warwickandwarwick.com/cat...stimatelow=100 and the catalogue is at: http://www.warwickandwarwick.com/cat...sets&sale_date= All the best.   11-16-2009, 09:28 AM   #14 (permalink) fretboard Defender of Old Coinage     Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 808 My Mood: Blog Entries: 2 Welcome MrSnert, that's a mighty great find you have there! Very interesting info btw. Lucky you!!   Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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