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Old 11-02-2009, 01:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rare 1884 S Morgan Dollar MS Value?

Hi, I won this 1884 S Morgan on auction. Seller states it is MS and has full breast featers when I asked. Even looks proof like to me. Any Morgan people here can give me a rough estimate of grade? I paid $260.00 for the coin.

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Old 11-02-2009, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very Rare MS 1884 S Morgan Value?

Hi, I won this 1884 S Morgan on auction. Seller states it is MS and has full breast featers when I asked. Even looks proof like to me. Any Morgan experts here can give me a rough estimate of grade? I paid $260.00 for the coin.

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Old 11-02-2009, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It does not look MS to me. If I had to say, it look more like XF to me...maybe low AU.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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some nice toning to it anyway.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I paid $260.00 for the coin.
I tend to agree with the other guys - XF details, surface "issues", net VF.

This one is certainly not mint state, and no one would expect MS for that kind of money. Recent auction records suggest $260 gets a certified AU50-53 ... somewhere in there. MS 1884-S Morgans are very pricey.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think AU-55 myself, and I can't tell if it has good tone or not from the photos as it has a green tinge on my monitor.

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Old 11-03-2009, 12:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think AU-55 myself, and I can't tell if it has good tone or not from the photos as it has a green tinge on my monitor.

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Green tinge on my monitor as well. Is it toning or PVC damage? Green or brown? If it's green in person return it. If you want your money back return it. If you've learned a lesson, return it. If you love the coin, then keep it. The dollar does not look MS anything to anyone, better luck next time.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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look at the breast on this AU53. i wouldn't advise spending that kind of money without knowing what you are buying. don't just take the sellers word for grade.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1884-S-Morgan-Do...item56365e7b3c

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Well the seller has a 100% feed back and gives 7 day return policy. Told me pictures just don't show feather details...Seller actually tried to use cancel transaction option...
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I agree with the others... I would call it AU details and from the pictures the surfaces definitely need a better look... not really much to go on with those pictures tho... so tentatively AU details cleaned and retoning... but definitely not MS.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well the seller has a 100% feed back and gives 7 day return policy. Told me pictures just don't show feather details...Seller actually tried to use cancel transaction option...
Pictures don't show feather details because there aren't any...
I think EF is a stretch...I'd go with highest grade of VF. Obverse better than reverse..
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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RH287, don't dispair, I have a couple of 1884S in the bank that came back AU58. There are many sliders AU/MS for this date, and 90% plus of them are AU, IMO.

There is a good reason why the 1884S is so much higher in MS than as an AU.

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is this your first e-bay purchase?
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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OK, Thanks guys..I may just send it back for refund....
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