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11-02-2009, 10:58 AM
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| Counterstamps/Countermarks
Hi,
I'm looking for a resource for counterstamped coins. I've been able to find lists of known CS coins, but they are listed by merchant/company. I'm primarily interested in coins with stamps/marks from companies in New York City, or a list of counterstamps by location, as opposed to the alphabetical list of merchants I can only seem to find. Where would I find such a list? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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11-02-2009, 11:32 AM
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Now that is a new one I've never heard before. Usually someone asks what those are if your referring to the coins with other people or symbols stamped on them. Usually it's the Lincoln Cent with Kennedy stamped on them. If it's those kind your looking for, I''m sure someone here would know where to find a list of source for them. Wish I could help.
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11-02-2009, 11:54 AM
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thanks for the response- what i mean is- i'm looking for markings specific to new york.
for example- i bought a flying eagle cent with d.h. day stamped into it. if d.h. day was based in new york, i'll keep it. if i find out that d.h. day was a person/restaurant/merchant/store/manufacturer/etc based in ohio, i'll sell/trade the coin.
i'm not interested in the mark, per se- i'm interested in the place the mark is specific to. if any given mark (word, image, whatever), is a reference to something in new york, i'm interested. if not, i'm not. i'm not sure if that makes sense.
doesn't have to be a name- could be an image, etc. if there was evidence which supported the notion that whatever the mark/stamp is, is a reference to a store in manhattan, i'd want it.
thanks. d
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11-02-2009, 09:56 PM
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| Rulau book?
I don't have any books specifically on counterstamps. I understand that there is a book by Rulau but I have not personally seen it. Maybe someone at CT can tell us if the Rulau book would help you.
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11-21-2009, 08:44 AM
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Hello. I'm new to this site, but I have an 1829 N-9 which is counterstamped ages ago with the initials ER. I have no idea where it was counterstamped but it almost looks like it was counterstamped before it was minted. The toning matches perfectly and LIBERTY is mostly sharp and contained within the inside of the R of the ER. ER is also on the reverse where the E is more distinct.
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11-21-2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Hello. I'm new to this site, but I have an 1829 N-9 which is counterstamped ages ago with the initials ER. I have no idea where it was counterstamped but it almost looks like it was counterstamped before it was minted. The toning matches perfectly and LIBERTY is mostly sharp and contained within the inside of the R of the ER. ER is also on the reverse where the E is more distinct. | I personally cannot help you with the identification. However, if you could post a photograph and maybe start a new thread on the coin, there may be some other CTers that can help with the ID.
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11-21-2009, 05:22 PM
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I have just begun trying to photograph my coins and have run into a problem. I know what I want to do photographically from my old days using a Minolta 135MM, but the new Canon A590 with all the features I want is so complex I can't make it work. All the photo help sites want to teach me about photography and I need help making the camera do what I know it is capable of doing.
I can't even get it to focus manually and it is a feature it both supports and recommends. Only it doesn't say how. I want the maximum optical zoom but it doesn't say how. I want a timer but it doesn't say how. I can handle the lighting, but that's the focus of the help sites on photographing coins.
OK Submitting a photo is a point of irritation because I want to do it so much.
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11-03-2009, 01:23 PM
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I'd say you need to get the Brunk book on counterstamped coins, which unfortunately will list them alphabetically, then go through it and make up your own list of those pieces which relate to the New York area.
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11-21-2009, 03:03 AM
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Brunks book does have an index listing by State/City/Merchant or symbol, so the information you are after for all New York related counterstamps is on pages 465 & 466 of "Merchant and Privately Countermarked Coins".
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11-21-2009, 07:26 AM
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11-21-2009, 07:50 AM
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Brunk's book is great; I have it here. I looked up D.H. Day (all the counterstamps are listed in alpha order). Brunk lists the known coins that have a particular counterstamp, in this case he lists (under D-189, his catalog number):
Large Cent U.K.
Small Cents: 1857 1858 (2) 1864 (2)
Nickel: 1868
Half Dollar: 1834
With L. RICE (R-234)
Small Cents: 1859 1860
Brunk also provides locations for counterstampers when he knows them. In the case of D.H. Day he does not provide a location, New York or otherwise. There is an E. DAY just below from Brooklyn, who counterstamped coins both E. DAY and E. DAY/BROOKLYN. Brunk provides photos also of some counterstamped coins, but none for D.H. Day. The E. DAY/BROOKLYN counterstamp is on a Mexican two reales. Hope this helps!
PS Remember to search www.amazon.com when you are considering buying numismatic books, as they aggregate many sellers! Besides the link above which takes you to a new copy of the Brunk book for $82.95, a quick search through Amazon led me to a "Used-Like New" copy for $50. I have used this method many times to save money, since I buy a lot of numismatic references! Good luck!
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