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Page 2 of 2 < 1 2   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 10-30-2009, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink) LostDutchman exsisto magister     Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,171 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 I expect your not gonna like what you see when you get it... but who knows... we'll just have to wait and see. __________________ Matt Dinger Lost Dutchman Rare Coins   10-30-2009, 08:27 PM   #2 (permalink) mark_h Numismatist     Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,197 Yep can't wait to see pictures from you. Looks like nice details and besides the color the only other thing I noticed was the hits on the reverse on the rim. Still I can't wait to see your pictures. __________________ the other mark Best Baan Community Empty airtite seeks unwanted coins. All sizes welcome.   10-31-2009, 09:53 AM   #3 (permalink) ksparrow Coin Hoarder     Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,279 I'd like to comment on the pictures (not the coin they represent, obviously) The color looks off, even on the corrected version, imo. This may just be the original photo's color is unbalanced, or the coin is recolored. The granular-looking stuff near the rims needs to be examined very carefully. Is it corrosion? More ominously, some of the better, newer Chinese fakes have raised granularity just inside the rims. Hope you can post larger, sharper photos once it arrives. Interesting thread.   10-31-2009, 11:04 AM   #4 (permalink) nightowl Member   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 Agreed, in fact I said that the corrected version probably wasn't the right color either....the point in doing it was to show what kind of editing can be done. I don't have it here so I have nothing to compare it to. I don't mean to imply that it looks like that image....but rather that the actual coin could be way off of the color in the original pics. It will arrive on monday I suppose since it left Sacramento on the 29th and didn't arrive today. I'll post good pictures when I get it in hand. Nightowl   10-31-2009, 01:08 PM   #5 (permalink) Conder101 Numismatist   Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,448 I think it is probably real, I think it has had a problem with corrosion in the past an the coin was cleaned to get rid of it. What I can't understand that no one has mentioned is that it looks like someone has been pecking at the center of the reverse with an ice pick. __________________ Slab collector and researcher reported as of 12/29/06 132 companies 332 production varieties   10-31-2009, 01:17 PM   #6 (permalink) nightowl Member   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 I appreciate everybody's input, and I was hoping that Conder would weigh in given his other posts on coppers. I paid about half of numismedia's FMV for a middle AU, so even given the cleaning...I may well end up keeping it. In time it will darken, and look a little less freakish. It will arrive on monday and we'll see what it looks like Nightowl   10-31-2009, 04:20 PM   #7 (permalink) 900fine doggone it people like me     Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,807 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by nightowl I believe it's an N-4...Large 8 small stars, medium letters? If it's genuine (which I believe it is), it's definitely N-4 (R.2). 1834s are easier to attribute than some other years. In addition to the diagnostics you mentioned, star 6 is immediately above, and points to, the coronet. Good luck ! Can't wait to see the finished photos.   11-02-2009, 11:41 AM   #8 (permalink) mark_h Numismatist     Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,197 Yep the reverse has led a rough life, but if you are happy then I am glad. And the obverse does have some really nice details, too bad about the color. __________________ the other mark Best Baan Community Empty airtite seeks unwanted coins. All sizes welcome.   11-02-2009, 12:10 PM   #9 (permalink) nightowl Member   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 I think it I'm OK at the price. I believe the rim of the reverse, which would leave one with the impression that it's lead a much harder life than it has... is imparted by the worn out, rusted reverse die that they used....but the damage in the center is the real bummer....that and the color. Thanks..... Nightowl   11-03-2009, 06:06 PM   #10 (permalink) Conder101 Numismatist   Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,448 Quote: Conder is a psychic... Conder has pictures of all the varieties of the 1834 cents and knows what the center dots look like. __________________ Slab collector and researcher reported as of 12/29/06 132 companies 332 production varieties   11-03-2009, 06:28 PM   #11 (permalink) 900fine doggone it people like me     Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,807 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by nightowl Conder is a psychic... Quote: Originally Posted by Conder101 Conder has pictures of all the varieties of the 1834 cents and knows what the center dots look like. Which means Newcomb and Noyes are psychics, right ?   11-03-2009, 06:14 PM   #12 (permalink) yakpoo Member     Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 838 It's still an attractive coin (imo)...congrats!!   11-03-2009, 06:36 PM   #13 (permalink) Leadfoot Numismatist     Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,620 My Mood: When Conder types, Leadfoot listens.   11-05-2009, 11:29 AM   #14 (permalink) nightowl Member   Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 I have the utmost respect for Conder's opinion. He's obviously knowledgable on the subject. As for the guys who wrote the book being psychic....they weren't in on the conversation, and it was the "ice pick" comment that was a little uncanny. You can tell from the picture that something's going on there...but it's a little hard to see. Nightowl   Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. 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