CoinTalk

Welcome to Coin Talk! Register Now, it's easy and FREE!

Thousands of coin collectors, numismatists, coin dealers, bullion investors, and enthusiasts make Coin Talk their number one source for numismatic news, information about US and world coins, discussions and community.

You are currently viewing Coin Talk as a guest, which limits your access to content, contests and information. By joining our free community, you will be able to join in discussions, contact other members, place free advertisements, enter contests, and much more. Registration is easy and free. Register Now


Go Back   CoinTalk > Coin Forums > World & Ancient Coins

Notices

World & Ancient Coins Discussion relating to world & ancient coins. Including, but not limited to, the new Euro coins.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-30-2009, 03:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
Supporter**
 
Eduard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 815
Celtic Coins

I find these tiny coins, minted by the Vangiones and Vindeliker Celtic tribes of central Germany really captivating.

They were minted around 50 B.C, just before the Roman conquest of Germania, in a period when Celtic culture in central Europe was already vanishing. The highly stilized motives depicting horses and warriors, are quite mysterious, and full of symbol and mysticism.

These particular examples are called the Bird-man, and the Tiny Dancing Man (or running warrior) carrying a Torques (ritual ring) and a snake.
On better preserved examples than these, the features and the beauty of these coins is readily evident.

I thought I would share these with you.
Attached Thumbnails
vogelmaennchen-avers.jpg  

vogelmaennchen-revers.jpg  

tanzendes-maennlein-avers.jpg  

tanzendes-maennlein-revers.jpg  


Eduard is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 10-30-2009, 03:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
Yep
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Krasny Vostok
Posts: 2,533
I only have one Celtic coin, but I really really like it. I particularly like how they have their own unique approach to the artistry on them, semi-fanciful, enigmatic and rather mysterious and macabre at times - much like Celtic culture.
__________________

scottishmoney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
History Via Numismatics
 
Billy Kingsley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dutchess County, New York
Posts: 405
My Mood:
Blog Entries: 8
Very cool! Whenever I think of ancient coins I usually think of Rome first (due to my natural bias towards ancient Roman study) but there are lots of others that are certainly worthy of study. Thanks for sharing!

I wonder how many people will open this expecting to see Larry Bird or Paul Pierce? LOL
__________________
Billy Kingsley Member ANA, SPMC
I don't care about a coin or note's "value" or material composition. I care about what it is, and it's place in history!
Collector of all coins and currency!
Billy Kingsley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
tbarreca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 42
Extremely cool. I think that most of what we know today about Celtic culture comes from its remnants in Britanny and the British isles, as opposed to its origins in Central Europe. This includes, for example, legends about Cuchalain, the (probably mythical, I think) king of Ireland the various stories about Celtic religion put together by folks like the poet, William Butler Yeats, and his friend, Lady Gregory.

I only mention this because it would be interesting to match up the devices on these coins with other cultural or political landmarks, like mythical figures (the owl is a symbol of Athena on Greek coins, for example) or political leaders like kings (tribal chieftains).

I am very curious about this. Does anyone know of any work along these lines?
tbarreca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
tbarreca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 42
Btw, what are these coins made from? Do you know?
tbarreca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 03:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
CONSVL
 
stainless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: T-Town Beat Down, Michigan
Posts: 3,153
My Mood:
Some nice looking pieces!


Quote:
Originally Posted by tbarreca View Post
Btw, what are these coins made from? Do you know?

silver


stainless
__________________
Will trade coins for cake recipes.
stainless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 05:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
FVTVE FATVM
 
Ardatirion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Posts: 2,660
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Ardatirion
I'm fascinated by Celtic coins, but prices and expensive German-language references keep me from pursuing them more actively. Eduard, would you mind confirming the last one for me?


Celtic Gaul - The Remi
EL 1/4 stater - 1.48 g, 11mm
c. 100 BC
Celticized head
Celtic horse galloping r.
Castelin 516 var.



Eastern Celts
Imitating Alexander III
AR drachm, 1st cent BC
Stylized bust r.
Stylized Zeus seated l.
Kostial 947


Cunobelin
British Celts, Catuvellauni
AE unit, 1st cent. AD, before 40
Head l.
CVNOBELIN
Minter seated right, striking coin
TASCIO
Spink 342


Hercuniates
Illyrian Celts
Stylized bust of Zeus r.
Stylized horseman l.
Cf. Lanz 811
__________________
My Ancient Coin Collection
Ardatirion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2009, 06:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
randygeki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Flagstaff, Arizona
Posts: 2,040
My Mood:
Thanks for posting them. I wana find one for my collection once I get caugh up in other areas
__________________
My old coins (really old)
randygeki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 04:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
Supporter**
 
Eduard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 815
Thank you guys for your comments. I can appreciate that you, as I, see something special in Celtic culture, and their coins.
The Celtic tribes which lived in what is now Germany populated predominantly central and southern Germany. They built stone fortifications in hill tops called Oppidae. These had been mostly abandoned by the time the Romans invaded, and their culture merged with the germanic tribes which succeeded them.


[QUOTE=Ardatirion;725454]I'm fascinated by Celtic coins, but prices and expensive German-language references keep me from pursuing them more actively. Eduard, would you mind confirming the last one for me?

Ardatirion, do you mean confirmation for the Quinarii which I showed?

The Bird-man quinarius is described in Castelin 1114; de la Tour 9388. Weigth ca. 1.6 gs
The Little Dancing Man is described in Castelin 1118ff; de la Tour 9396. Weight ca. 1.6 gs.

(above attribution as per sales catalogues)

Regards,

Eduard

Last edited by Eduard; 11-01-2009 at 04:49 AM.
Eduard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 12:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
FVTVE FATVM
 
Ardatirion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Posts: 2,660
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Ardatirion
[QUOTE=Eduard;726720]Thank you guys for your comments. I can appreciate that you, as I, see something special in Celtic culture, and their coins.
The Celtic tribes which lived in what is now Germany populated predominantly central and southern Germany. They built stone fortifications in hill tops called Oppidae. These had been mostly abandoned by the time the Romans invaded, and their culture merged with the germanic tribes which succeeded them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardatirion View Post
I'm fascinated by Celtic coins, but prices and expensive German-language references keep me from pursuing them more actively. Eduard, would you mind confirming the last one for me?

Ardatirion, do you mean confirmation for the Quinarii which I showed?

The Bird-man quinarius is described in Castelin 1114; de la Tour 9388. Weigth ca. 1.6 gs
The Little Dancing Man is described in Castelin 1118ff; de la Tour 9396. Weight ca. 1.6 gs.

(above attribution as per sales catalogues)

Regards,

Eduard
I was hoping you'd be able to check on mine.
__________________
My Ancient Coin Collection
Ardatirion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 12:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
Supporter**
 
Eduard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hessen, Germany
Posts: 815
[QUOTE=Ardatirion;726895]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduard View Post
Thank you guys for your comments. I can appreciate that you, as I, see something special in Celtic culture, and their coins.
The Celtic tribes which lived in what is now Germany populated predominantly central and southern Germany. They built stone fortifications in hill tops called Oppidae. These had been mostly abandoned by the time the Romans invaded, and their culture merged with the germanic tribes which succeeded them.




I was hoping you'd be able to check on mine.
I feel honoured you would think I could do that...YOU are our resident expert my friend!
Eduard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 12:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
FVTVE FATVM
 
Ardatirion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Posts: 2,660
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Ardatirion
[QUOTE=Eduard;726903]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardatirion View Post

I feel honoured you would think I could do that...YOU are our resident expert my friend!
Oh fine. I'll try to order the book from the library.
__________________
My Ancient Coin Collection
Ardatirion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 02:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
FVTVE FATVM
 
Ardatirion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Posts: 2,660
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Ardatirion
The results: It is NOT the Hercuniates.

Eastern Celts, near Sirmium
Imitating Philip II of Macedon
AR drachm , 1st cent BC
Kugelwange type
Stylized bust of Zeus r.
Stylized horse walking l.
Cf. Kostial 503
__________________
My Ancient Coin Collection
Ardatirion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 04:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
randygeki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Flagstaff, Arizona
Posts: 2,040
My Mood:
I wouldnt even know where to begin to look , gj
__________________
My old coins (really old)
randygeki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 05:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
World Gold Collector
 
silvereagle82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 807
My Mood:
interesting stuff
__________________
NGC COLLECTORS SOCIETY
The Crown Collection - World Gold (Newly Updated: June 7, 2009)
silvereagle82 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
Would you like to support CoinTalk?

Coin Talk Code of Honor
1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show.
3. If you don't like the coin, don't trash the person.

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Weapons On Coins I Clinker Coin Chat 36 09-12-2009 08:13 PM
Coin Grading/Authentication Services Reid Goldsborough Coin Chat 57 06-01-2009 03:14 PM
Trivia: Millennium Coins Part 5/ So. America Clinker Coin Chat 2 02-25-2009 05:44 PM
Trivia: Millennium Coins Part 4 Clinker Coin Chat 0 02-18-2008 01:05 PM
Trivia: Millennium Coins Part 1 Clinker Coin Chat 6 01-25-2008 08:46 PM

» Newsletter
Sign up for CoinTalk's Newsletter
enter your email address below.
» Unanswered Posts
Do You Have the Answer?
» Sponsors

» Today's Top Posters
Top Posters in Last 1 Days
[27]
[21]
[14]
[14]
[14]
[14]
[13]
[13]
[12]
[12]

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 PM.


vBAdvertise v1.0.0 Copyright ©2009, PixelFX Studios
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright 2008 CoinTalk
"Wiki" powered by VaultWiki v2.5.0.
Copyright © 2008 - 2009, Cracked Egg Studios.