Something amiss on this?? Ebay 1901 S PCGS quarter

**majorbigtime** · 10-25-2009 11:06 AM

Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/1901-S-SILVER-BARBER-QUARTER-PCGS-CERTIFIED-G-6_W0QQitemZ250517376650QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US _Individual?hash=item3a53ffce8a

I study these and have G4 and G6 examples in hand. There is no way the Ebay coin is a G6 (worn into rims) and something is woefully amiss IMO. I don't like this seller's 1913 S either.

**chip** · 10-25-2009 11:14 AM

I have only one example of this series, so I cannot say that I have done much studying of the series, perhaps it is an example of what the coinmanati call market grading, where a rare key date coin gets a grading bump?

**majorbigtime** · 10-25-2009 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by chip

I have only one example of this series, so I cannot say that I have done much studying of the series, perhaps it is an example of what the coinmanati call market grading, where a rare key date coin gets a grading bump?

Another school of thought is that the TPGs are tougher on key dates. If the coin/holder are legit, someone was asleep at the switch IMO.

**GDJMSP** · 10-25-2009 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by majorbigtime

Another school of thought is that the TPGs are tougher on key dates. If the coin/holder are legit, someone was asleep at the switch IMO.

What planet do you live on ? Because on the one where I live the TPG's routinely, and I mean routinely, over-grade keys. It would be the exception for them to grade one accurately. And it is unheard of for them to under-grade a key - any key !

**CamaroDMD** · 10-25-2009 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by GDJMSP

What planet do you live on ? Because on the one where I live the TPG's routinely, and I mean routinely, over-grade keys. It would be the exception for them to grade one accurately. And it is unheard of for them to under-grade a key - any key !

I agree, I have never seen a key date under-graded...not even one time.

**Mark Feld** · 10-25-2009 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by [LEFT

majorbigtime[/LEFT];720816]Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/1901-S-SILVER-BARBER-QUARTER-PCGS-CERTIFIED-G-6_W0QQitemZ250517376650QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US _Individual?hash=item3a53ffce8a

I study these and have G4 and G6 examples in hand. There is no way the

Ebay

coin is a G6 (worn into rims) and something is woefully amiss IMO. I don't like this seller's 1913 S either.

Yes, something is amiss - your perception of how the

TPG's

grade key date coins.

**majorbigtime** · 10-25-2009 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by CamaroDMD

I agree, I have never seen a key date under-graded...not even one time.

Well, I have a 01S PCGS G04 that has full rims that stands head and shoulders above the coin in this auction. I don't know that mine is undergraded, but if you don't think the auction coins is overgraded I have some oceanfront property in Arizona for you.

**Mark Feld** · 10-25-2009 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by majorbigtime

Well, I have a 01S PCGS G04 that has full rims that stands head and shoulders above the coin in this auction. I don't know that mine is undergraded, but if you don't think the auction coins is overgraded I have some oceanfront property in Arizona for you.

Let's see some images of yours? Maybe it's under-graded or maybe there are reasons other than the amount of wear that account for its grade.

**Phil Ham** · 10-25-2009 04:13 PM

My first impression was an AG3 but I could see a G4. It may be cutting hairs, but I think the G6 is a little over the top. BTW, that is one expensive coin for an AG3 (oops, I mean G6).

**majorbigtime** · 10-25-2009 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Phil Ham

My first impression was an AG3 but I could see a G4. It may be cutting hairs, but I think the G6 is a little over the top. BTW, that is one expensive coin for an AG3 (oops, I mean G6).

That's where I see it. At first glance, I thought someone may have
switched coins in this slab as it is no way near G06 IMO..

**kanga** · 10-25-2009 04:58 PM

IMO
Based on the obverse I can understand G-4.
But you have to stretch a bit (but not too badly) to see the reverse as more than AG-3.

**900fine** · 10-25-2009 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by GDJMSP

...the TPG's routinely, and I mean routinely, over-grade keys. It would be the exception for them to grade one accurately.

This is why I have yet to finish my Indian $2.5 set - missing the key 1911-D. Every single one of 'em I've seen is overgraded.

It's also why I question the wisdom of buying keys first. I'm not saying buy them last, either... I'm saying buy them second. Get a little experience in a series before you take The High Dive.

**Phil Ham** · 10-25-2009 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by 900fine

This is why I have yet to finish my Indian $2.5 set - missing the key 1911-D. Every single one of 'em I've seen is overgraded.

It's also why I question the wisdom of buying keys first. I'm not saying buy them last, either... I'm saying buy them second. Get a little experience in a series before you take The High Dive.

Well, I must taking the wrong approach. I have the entire Lincoln Memorial collection except the 1909S VDB. I have the entire Buffalo Nickel collection except the 1913Sv2. I have the entire Mercury dime collection except the 1916D. I have the entire Washington quarter collection except the 1932 D and S. I have the entire Liberty nickel collection except the 1885 and 1886. I appear to be too cheap to buy the real expensive coins to finalize my collections.