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10-24-2009, 05:58 PM
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What do you think of this 1642 Quarter ECU?
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10-24-2009, 06:16 PM
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10-24-2009, 06:20 PM
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Beautiful coin! Do not put it in a plastic coffin, you will be killing the coin |
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10-24-2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HistoricCoinage Beautiful coin! Do not put it in a plastic coffin, you will be killing the coin  | have to agree loveley coin dount kill it
i love the feel of old coins you can almoust feel the past
to slab what do you feel notting
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10-24-2009, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarotta Some boys take a beautiful girl
And hide her away from the rest of the world
I want to be the one to walk in the sun
Oh girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have |
some girls can have to much fun lol
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10-24-2009, 06:39 PM
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I don't know much about these so I don't know if it's worth slabbing...but I don't feel that slabbing a coin is "killing" it or putting it in a "coffin."
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10-24-2009, 06:45 PM
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In my view, slabbing should only be reserved for matters of urgent conservation or for modern proof coins.
Most of these hammered coins have been in the ground for hundreds of years and will have changed hands countless times. Putting them in a slab is pointless as few will tone or get damaged as they are already remnants of history.
Also, slabbing to get a grade, I feel, is absolutely pointless. Why pay for someone else to grade your coin? That is something which I will never understand about American collecting and I'm so glad that the grading companies are not taking off in the UK. CGS UK is, as far as I can see, a failure in terms of popularity.
I have nothing against other people slabbing coins but I do not see the point of them for hammered coins as they add nothing to them, rather, they take the tangibility of it away - hence they 'kill' them as it defeats the object of a coin.
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10-24-2009, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroDMD I don't know much about these so I don't know if it's worth slabbing...but I don't feel that slabbing a coin is "killing" it or putting it in a "coffin." | I'm with you Camaro , it will protect the coin , though I don't collect ancients some of these han=mmered coins seem quite fragile , you don't have to hold them in your hands to enjoy them . JMO
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10-24-2009, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rzage I'm with you Camaro , it will protect the coin , though I don't collect ancients some of these hammered coins seem quite fragile , you don't have to hold them in your hands to enjoy them . JMO
rzage  | Don't date much, do you?
When I bought my Owl, the dealer encouraged me to hold it, feel it, handle it. Be careful. Don't drop it. They can be as fragile as glass, as silver crystalizes, but on a sofa or a bed, there's not much harm possible. With ancients, you do have to handle them to enjoy them. That is just another of your senses to bring to the experience. With modern US you can slab them because they all look alike and they all look like their pictures in the Red Book because you can get them all XF/MS/Blah-Blah.
And yes, I have US Type also, from a VF Large Cent to a Proof Roosie and all the others. Yes, US Type is nice.
For what it is.
For ancients, medievals, old stuff in general, if you can't handle it, you might as well have a picture, like a pin-up, if you want to think of it that way, not quite the real thing.
I will give you a concrete example. I have two coins, one Tibetan, that I believe were owned for a long time by the same person as a good luck piece. They are nominally VF/XF, but when I handled it, my thumb found the slight slidey place where someone else's thumb ran back and forth, nervously, perhaps, or patiently, perhaps. I felt as if I were in touch with that person. Slabbed, that would be evident.
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10-24-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroDMD I don't know much about these so I don't know if it's worth slabbing...but I don't feel that slabbing a coin is "killing" it or putting it in a "coffin." | OK, you can sell it on eBay or something. But you want to sell it to someone who actually knows and collects the series, the time, the place, the king,... well, the slab is just a better kind of mylar flip and no one is going to pay you back for your investment in slabbing. They're just going to want the coin, and probably crack it out at that.
The quarter-ecu is not necessarily a "fragile" coin. (It might be.) This coin survived a bit over the last 350 years.
Moreover, with slabbing companies making errors like anyone else before I bought it, I would want to handle it.
You can do what you want with your coin, but if I were a dealer and you brought it to me, I'd buy the coin, not the holder.
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10-24-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarotta you brought it to me, I'd buy the coin, not the holder. | Exactly my point. The slab is completely irrelevant and if I bought a slabbed coin, I'd immediately seek a vice and a hacksaw...
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10-24-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarotta OK, you can sell it on eBay or something. But you want to sell it to someone who actually knows and collects the series, the time, the place, the king,... well, the slab is just a better kind of mylar flip and no one is going to pay you back for your investment in slabbing. They're just going to want the coin, and probably crack it out at that. | I'm not advocating slabbing this coin or slabbing every coin. My point is, there is nothing wrong will slabbing. If this coin has value (I don't know that is does) or is rare (again, I have no idea) and the OP wants to slab it...then go ahead. I have only ever had 2 coins slabbed and in both cases I am glad I did. I probably own less than a dozen slabbed coins...but a slab is not a coffin nor is it killing the coin. That was my only point.
Typically, slabbing a coin isn't a good investment anyway. In most cases you don't get your money back. That's why...all the slabbed coins I own (except for those 2) I bought slabbed because I wanted slabbed examples.
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10-24-2009, 07:03 PM
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I say that if you want to slab it, slab it. Enjoy the coin in the manner that suits you and your collecting style. It is a beautiful piece.
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10-27-2009, 08:43 AM
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