CoinTalk

Welcome to Coin Talk! Register Now, it's easy and FREE!

Thousands of coin collectors, numismatists, coin dealers, bullion investors, and enthusiasts make Coin Talk their number one source for numismatic news, information about US and world coins, discussions and community.

You are currently viewing Coin Talk as a guest, which limits your access to content, contests and information. By joining our free community, you will be able to join in discussions, contact other members, place free advertisements, enter contests, and much more. Registration is easy and free. Register Now


Go Back   CoinTalk > Coin Forums > US Coins Forum

Notices

US Coins Forum This forum dedicated to the discussion of United States Coins.

View Poll Results: Should the United States government eliminate the penny?
Yes 42 40.38%
No 59 56.73%
Undecided 3 2.88%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-21-2009, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
silvrluvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 727
My Mood:
I'd like to see the cent dropped and replaced with a copper 5 cent piece, and maybe a 2 or 3 cent piece.
__________________
-Jeff in MN
_______________________________________
buy, buy, buy, sell, buy it back, buy, buy, buy....
silvrluvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 315
It is a cent, not a penny!@
majorbigtime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 10:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 315
To repeat, it is a cent, not a penny!@
majorbigtime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 10:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
ANA# R3129541
 
green18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 5,934
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by majorbigtime View Post
To repeat, it is a cent, not a penny!@
Say that again. I didn't hear you......
__________________
They also serve who only stand and wait....John Milton
green18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 02:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
Loves shiney objects
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 23
Keep the cent. It's not that hard to work with, and I like cash registers to calculate my bill with sales tax to the nearest cent. Those that don't like the cent can put them in the tray by the register or drop them on the ground where I'll pick them up.

I feel like I'd be giving extra money to the government by the rounding up process...With my luck, I'd go to ten different shops/stores and have all ten transactions rounded UP....

I bet charities--the ones with coin collection containers near a cash register--would see a reduction in donations...all those pennies add up for them.
Scott M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 11:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
Dental Student
 
CamaroDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 5,397
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott M. View Post
Keep the cent. It's not that hard to work with, and I like cash registers to calculate my bill with sales tax to the nearest cent. Those that don't like the cent can put them in the tray by the register or drop them on the ground where I'll pick them up.

I feel like I'd be giving extra money to the government by the rounding up process...With my luck, I'd go to ten different shops/stores and have all ten transactions rounded UP....

I bet charities--the ones with coin collection containers near a cash register--would see a reduction in donations...all those pennies add up for them.
But, if it costs more to produce the coin than it's worth...isn't that a problem? The value of the cent has dropped so much due to inflation it's not even worth the metal in the coin (let alone the cost of production). They government is literally throwing money away (tax generated money) by producing the cent.

Then again, I don't have to worry about sales tax.
CamaroDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 12:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
jello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,850
My Mood:
Smile

No! us Lincoln lover would die!
__________________
no one right 100% of the time
***The only dumb question is the one not asked***
jello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 12:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
rockdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ca.
Posts: 2,152
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroDMD View Post
But, if it costs more to produce the coin than it's worth...isn't that a problem? The value of the cent has dropped so much due to inflation it's not even worth the metal in the coin (let alone the cost of production). They government is literally throwing money away (tax generated money) by producing the cent.

Then again, I don't have to worry about sales tax.
But your property tax you do.
__________________
An artist is somebody who produces things that people don't need to have. Andy Warhol
rockdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 12:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
Dental Student
 
CamaroDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Oregon
Posts: 5,397
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockdude View Post
But your property tax you do.
Yeah...and so does my state income tax.

I just happen to live in one of a couple states that don't have sales tax. But, we make up for it in either property or state income tax.
CamaroDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 12:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
Numismatist
 
jello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,850
My Mood:
You know what they stay there is only 2 thing you can not get away from Death & Tax'
__________________
no one right 100% of the time
***The only dumb question is the one not asked***
jello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 01:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
Coin Collector
 
rockdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: ca.
Posts: 2,152
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroDMD View Post
Yeah...and so does my state income tax.

I just happen to live in one of a couple states that don't have sales tax. But, we make up for it in either property or state income tax.
I used to live west of Portland and down near Rogue River some time back when the town of Wimer was still on the map.
__________________
An artist is somebody who produces things that people don't need to have. Andy Warhol
rockdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 01:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
Loves shiney objects
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroDMD View Post
But, if it costs more to produce the coin than it's worth...isn't that a problem?
I don't see it as a problem because the mint more than makes up for it everywhere else (except the nickel ).

Seniorage from each quarter = 20.8 cents; each dollar coin = 94.8 cents.

ONE roll of 'mint wrapped' presidential dollars, now selling to collectors for just $35.95: Mint's profit = $23.81!
Scott M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 08:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
bullnuke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 63
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott M. View Post
I don't see it as a problem because the mint more than makes up for it everywhere else (except the nickel ).

Seniorage from each quarter = 20.8 cents; each dollar coin = 94.8 cents.

ONE roll of 'mint wrapped' presidential dollars, now selling to collectors for just $35.95: Mint's profit = $23.81!
So what you are saying is the stock holders in a company would be alright with taking less profit by continuing to make something for a loss, something that doesn't have to be made. If we make 7 billion cents a year for a loss of 1/2 cent each that would be an overall loss of 35 million dollars( where I come from that is a lot of money). Additionally 1 billion nickels at a loss of 1 cent each is an additional 10 million dollars. In the overall scheme of things may be small potatoes, but no different than skipping starbucks once a week.
__________________
Kie

I don't have friends, friends are a liability, friends will get you killed!
I work in Quality Assurance: If you need a friend buy a dog.
bullnuke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 08:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4
unintended consequence

The cent probably should be eliminated. The unintended consequence would be that all item's costs will be rounded up to .05 or .10 depending (ie .22 to .25 or .27 to .30), no doubt.
Aubrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2009, 02:47 AM   #15 (permalink)
Village Idiot
 
mikenoodle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,499
My Mood:
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamaroDMD View Post
But, if it costs more to produce the coin than it's worth...isn't that a problem?
If you plan it as a practice, then you must subsidize it by some other means. I can't speak about the cent, but the nickel is costing over 5¢ to make and I have heard a solution to the problem that's quite interesting to coin collectors. You don't need any change in legislation or coinage bill to make it happen either.

You start coining the clad half dime. Half the size of a dime, the treasury secretary can authorize the coin himself as the denomination is currently on the books and the design has not changed in over 25 years. Where I originally heard this is when the state of Virginia hi-jacked the reverse of the Nickel a few years ago. They soon figured out that legislation authorizing any new issue would override the current law rendering it a moot point.
__________________
A long term marriage is the process of falling in love with the same person over and over.
mikenoodle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
Would you like to support CoinTalk?

Coin Talk Code of Honor
1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show.
3. If you don't like the coin, don't trash the person.

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
83 Uses for a "Penny" Treashunt Coin Chat 27 05-30-2009 07:13 PM
2006 silver eagle anniversary set mr2005 US Coins Forum 5 01-04-2009 07:04 PM
Should the mint element the Gold Eagle program? Julien US Coins Forum 19 11-09-2008 01:19 PM
H. R. 5614 Palladium Ounce coin CentDime Bullion Investing 2 04-15-2008 07:16 PM
Should the United States bring back the 2-cent piece? dbblsanta US Coins Forum 61 10-27-2007 03:38 PM

You Rated this Thread:
» Newsletter
Sign up for CoinTalk's Newsletter
enter your email address below.
» Unanswered Posts
Do You Have the Answer?
» Sponsors

» Today's Top Posters
Top Posters in Last 1 Days
[40]
[25]
[20]
[19]
[15]
[15]
[15]
[13]
[13]
[11]

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:04 AM.


vBAdvertise v1.0.0 Copyright ©2009, PixelFX Studios
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright 2008 CoinTalk
"Wiki" powered by VaultWiki v2.5.0.
Copyright © 2008 - 2009, Cracked Egg Studios.