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LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 10-18-2009, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink) Daggarjon Supporter**     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,999 My Mood: Please help identify this coin I cant read the language, and have no idea where to start with a country or year. Any help would be appreciated! __________________ Please visit My coin and currency Website. Any comments appreciated either on cointalk, or by signing my Guestbook WINS Member #: 779 - IBNS Member #: 9963 Most coin or currency storage questions answered here   10-18-2009, 06:41 PM   #2 (permalink) satootoko Retired   Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,822 Chinese cash coin from somewhere between the mid-17th and early 20th Centuries. The top of the obverse is at approximately 4:00 in the first picture, and the top of the reverse is at either 2:30 or 8:30. I'm not sure of the top/bottom of the Manchu characters which I believe specify the mint. __________________ Roy   10-18-2009, 07:28 PM   #3 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 465 My Mood: have no idea Sorry no idea but if manymore was here he would tell you very quickly Just have to takes a little while longer for him to answer Dave __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   10-18-2009, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink) Ardatirion FVTVE FATVM     Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 2,663 My Mood: Chinese 1 cash coin, Emperor Mu Zong, Tong Zhi reign, Board of Revenue mint in Peking, 1862-1874. __________________ My Ancient Coin Collection   10-18-2009, 07:37 PM   #5 (permalink) davemac dave     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ireland Posts: 465 My Mood: opps Quote: Originally Posted by Ardatirion Chinese 1 cash coin, Emperor Mu Zong, Tong Zhi reign, Board of Revenue mint in Peking, 1862-1874. I was worng there more here that can answer my bobo Dave __________________ admitting we are wrong is a modest way of showing we have grown wiser   10-18-2009, 09:30 PM   #6 (permalink) Daggarjon Supporter**     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,999 My Mood: thanks for the help! Looking through the Krauss catalog with the help of Ardatirion's post, i was able to find a coin that looks very similar to mine. The inscription text is different though. C# 1-14 CASH Cast Brass Obv. Inscription: T'ung-chih T'ung-pao Mint: Hupu Board of Revenue Date Mintage Good VG F VF XF ND(1862-74) — 3.50 5.50 8.50 15.00 — is this coin completely different then mine? Its the closest to mine i could find in the Krauss books. __________________ Please visit My coin and currency Website. Any comments appreciated either on cointalk, or by signing my Guestbook WINS Member #: 779 - IBNS Member #: 9963 Most coin or currency storage questions answered here   10-18-2009, 10:06 PM   #7 (permalink) Ardatirion FVTVE FATVM     Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 2,663 My Mood: Its the same coin. The problem is, there's a couple of different ways to anglicize Chinese, and Krause apparently uses a different one from me. __________________ My Ancient Coin Collection   10-18-2009, 10:10 PM   #8 (permalink) Daggarjon Supporter**     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,999 My Mood: krauss does alot of things different - most are not right lol. Its down right confusing at times!!! thanks for the translation/help!!! At least now i can mark the attribution on the label __________________ Please visit My coin and currency Website. Any comments appreciated either on cointalk, or by signing my Guestbook WINS Member #: 779 - IBNS Member #: 9963 Most coin or currency storage questions answered here   10-18-2009, 10:42 PM   #9 (permalink) DCH Member   Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 119 It's not real...probably a modern machine struck fake. Calligraphy is wrong(mint isn't even close), textured surface meant to imitate casting.   10-19-2009, 01:37 AM   #10 (permalink) Ardatirion FVTVE FATVM     Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 2,663 My Mood: Very good. I was quite curious about why the reverse blended into the rim. And the calligraphy did look off. But I honestly haven't looked at enough of the Qing dynasty stuff to be able to tell. On the bright side, its probably only worth a dollar or two to begin with! __________________ My Ancient Coin Collection   10-19-2009, 01:27 PM   #11 (permalink) Daggarjon Supporter**     Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,999 My Mood: FAKE? really? I recieved it in a small box of items a friend gave to me. Their father was in WWII, and in his travels he obtained the 'piece' in commerce. If it is a fake, its a fake that was made during that time period. I too noticed the rim being a bit flat on the reverse, but figured it might have to do with wear from being used. I dont know enough about the coins from that area ect so if you guys say its fake, i will notate it on the label! __________________ Please visit My coin and currency Website. Any comments appreciated either on cointalk, or by signing my Guestbook WINS Member #: 779 - IBNS Member #: 9963 Most coin or currency storage questions answered here   10-19-2009, 02:13 PM   #12 (permalink) hontonai Registered Contrarian   Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,434 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by Daggarjon If it is a fake, its a fake that was made during that time period. Chinese counterfeiting has an ancient tradition! The flat reverse rim is only one of multiple indications. __________________ Ethical conduct is being honest when no one is watching.   10-20-2009, 12:11 AM   #13 (permalink) MissSasha Junior Member     Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 179 it's absolutely fake. I had my parents buy me one in chinatown when I was a kid for $2.00. EXACTLY the same coin. I still have it too. __________________ Girls dig coins too! Successful trades/sales: Abe, illini420. Giveaways: regadon.   10-20-2009, 12:29 AM   #14 (permalink) Ardatirion FVTVE FATVM     Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 2,663 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by MissSasha it's absolutely fake. I had my parents buy me one in chinatown when I was a kid for $2.00. EXACTLY the same coin. I still have it too. Post it up, that one could be real. 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