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10-10-2009, 12:59 PM
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| 1989 error penny??
I have a 1989 penny that has a high rim on both front and back. I believe i have heard of these errors before called High rim? The odd thing about it is that the penny is double the thickness than regular pennies. I tried to show in the pictures what I am talking about. One is of a regular sized penny and other is the thick penny. Has anyone every heard of anything like this? I did a search for "thick penny" on google and came up with nothing.
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10-10-2009, 01:01 PM
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Left in a dryer for an hour or 10.
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10-10-2009, 01:33 PM
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Welcome to the forum. Can you give us a weight? Thanks
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10-10-2009, 01:36 PM
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Yes, that rim has a lot of miles on it.
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10-10-2009, 01:40 PM
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The measurement is of the field or whatever you call it. Therefore the planchet could be a thick one produced from a strip that was not rolled properly. The weight and diameter would help resolving the identity.
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10-10-2009, 02:56 PM
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thanks for your input. diameter is the same as all other pennies. I am still working on trying to find a gram scale.
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10-10-2009, 03:02 PM
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gas or electric?
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10-10-2009, 06:25 PM
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Hi and WELCOME,
The edge is rounded . The coin is damaged. They are called "dryer coins" as they really do get stuck inside the fins of commercial clothes dryers. If there is only one coin in the fin, the edge gets rounded over as the coin tumbles inside the fin. If there are many coins stuck inside the fin, the edge gets rounded over and the obverse and reverse are damaged.
In this case, only one coin in the fin.
It's not an error and they are found more than you might think:-)
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Bill
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10-10-2009, 06:27 PM
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Hi,
Also, it is not a thick planchet as the edge remains sharp and squared.
Thanks,
Bill
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10-10-2009, 08:12 PM
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So a commercial dryer can make a penny double it's width????
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10-10-2009, 09:17 PM
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yep!
This is one that I have on one of my websites. It was mixed with other coins and tumbled around in a laundromat dryer for six months or so.
Your coin was by itself and is in the early stages of being damaged.
Thanks,
Bill
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10-11-2009, 10:23 AM
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Wow thats hard to believe. Are there other ways to determine a dryer coin from a double planchet? Like perhaps weighing? I would assume a double planchet would weigh more than a regular coin. I cant see a dryer adding weigh to a coin soo....
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10-11-2009, 10:32 AM
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Weighing the coin was mentioned above, do you have a weight? Also the diameter.
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10-11-2009, 10:44 AM
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Judging from the photos, it appears to be a genuine error. The coin seems to show a "finned rim". Finning results from abnormally high ram pressure (the tonnage delivered to a normal planchet) or from increased effective striking pressure as the result of a slight bit of die tilt.
If there is rounding to the edge, it is too subtle for me to detect. The key would be to carefully measure the diameter. If the diameter is below that of a normal cent, the coin was rolled and sqeezed in a mechanical device. If the diameter is normal, then it's a case of finning.
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10-11-2009, 12:38 PM
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Look at where he is measuring with the micrometer. He is measuring inside the rim. The whole planchet must have been thicker than it was supposed to be.
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