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Old 09-30-2009, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Can You Help Me Identify This Coin?

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Where is it from? Who is on the obverse/reverse? Can you suggest any good websites or books about this coin? Any info you can provide is appreciated.

EDIT: Click on the scan to enlarge.

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Old 09-30-2009, 10:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try using photobucket. Those pics are too small to make a determination....
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Could be a George III penny from Great Britain, 1806, KM# 663 - that's a guess based on some enhancements of the scan.

If your scan was originally bigger than the limit (250K) the system seems to downsize it when you upload the image. This has happened to me.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Let's play detective.

Clue A -
There is an uncrowned King facing right, and Britannia faces left. That limits our choices to a James, a couple of Williams, and a couple of Georges; and a denomination of no more than 2 pence.
Clue B -
The letters "EOR" are clearly visible on the left side. That gets rid of the James/William possibilities.
Clue C -
There are no wide delineated borders around the bust or Britannia. That eliminates 2 pence as a denomination.
Clue D -
Although it can't be determined which side has the date, there does not appear to be an exurge line at the bottom of the reverse, which reduces the potential Georges to Mad George III, and the mintage years to 1806-07.
Clue E -
The diameter of the coin, which we don't know, would conclusively determine the denomination. As closely as I can measure the pictures in the SCWC with a pair of metal calipers:
  • Farthings approximated 21mm
  • Halfpennies approximated 29mm
  • Pennies approximated 35mm
Conclusion - Copper, George III, 1806-07, farthing, halfpenny or penny depending on diameter.

So tell us Half Dollar - what do you have?
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Correction---Hontonai, you ARE a damn-good detective!
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Let's play detective.

Clue A -
There is an uncrowned King facing right, and Britannia faces left. That limits our choices to a James, a couple of Williams, and a couple of Georges; and a denomination of no more than 2 pence.
Clue B -
The letters "EOR" are clearly visible on the left side. That gets rid of the James/William possibilities.
Clue C -
There are no wide delineated borders around the bust or Britannia. That eliminates 2 pence as a denomination.
Clue D -
Although it can't be determined which side has the date, there does not appear to be an exurge line at the bottom of the reverse, which reduces the potential Georges to Mad George III, and the mintage years to 1806-07.
Clue E -
The diameter of the coin, which we don't know, would conclusively determine the denomination. As closely as I can measure the pictures in the SCWC with a pair of metal calipers:
  • Farthings approximated 21mm
  • Halfpennies approximated 29mm
  • Pennies approximated 35mm
Conclusion - Copper, George III, 1806-07, farthing, halfpenny or penny depending on diameter.

So tell us Half Dollar - what do you have?
Sorry it's taken me this long to reply. Some home renovation projects have really limited my CT time! Hontonai, I really appreciate you taking the time to give such a detailed reply. Members like you make CT one of the best numismatic reference sites on the net. The coin has a diameter of 28mm, so I guess that makes it a halfpenny! Now it's time for more research!

Thanks again
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Very nice work, a professional's investigation.
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