Isn't this Mechanical Doubling??

lincolnhoardr · 09-28-2009, 08:59 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...963235&ru=http
Because I see 1992-D cents like that all the time

yorkiedad5 · 09-28-2009, 09:37 PM

sure looks like (MD) to me. I find alot like this too. Also why would they put a picture up sideways?? makes you really think something is up when they do that.

jcuve · 09-28-2009, 09:41 PM

Someone is about to waste $28+ on a garbage MD penny...

ziggy9 · 09-28-2009, 10:11 PM

Plating shift doubling.

Richard

jcuve · 09-28-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ziggy9

Plating shift doubling.

Richard

I mean no disrespect when I ask this, but where can I read about this phenomena discussed "Plating shift doubling?" Mike Diamond claimed in another thread there was no such animal. I haven't heard of it and when I googled the term all the links pointed to CoinTalk threads. I am willing to entertain it, but would like a link or a book that details the hypothesis/theory with some evidence (if possible) so I can understand it better.

Looking at the auction earlier I was on the fence as to whether it was machine doubling or die deterioration doubling as the lighting was catching so strongly on the doubled area in the seller's blurry photograph. I could be wrong and it could be this "Plating shift doubling," can someone elaborate?

physics-fan3.14 · 09-28-2009, 11:19 PM

I have not heard of this plating shift doubling. I would call this a rather extreme case of MDD.

rockdude · 09-29-2009, 01:42 AM

I heard it used and used it after this comment http://www.cointalk.com/t66088/ and got in trouble for useing it. http://www.cointalk.com/t71333/

penidave · 09-29-2009, 08:49 AM

after reading this thread i googled "plating split doubling term" and found on Ken Potters website he speaks of such a thing.

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

penidave · 09-29-2009, 08:57 AM

p.s. you can click the pictures on Ken's website and get an awesome example of each type of Doubling in large view. Both collectible and non-collectible.

Longacre's Doubling, Flat Field Doubling, Polish/Abrasion Doubling, Ejection Doubling, Plating Split Doubling... oh my!

jcuve · 09-29-2009, 09:47 AM

Plating Split Doubling is different than what we see here, it is when the plating is pulled back and splits giving the appearance of doubling from the exposed zinc.

bhp3rd · 09-29-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lincolnhoardr

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270461963235&ru=http
Because I see 1992-D cents like that all the time

Of course it is sellers of doublED dies on eBay are the worst. They do not know what they are doing - some times I get my back up about it and go in there and start calling them on their stuff which while fun for a time does nothing to stop these people.
Hint, I search for the phrase "double" die instead of the only correct "doublED die" - no true die variety expert will ever use any other phrase than doublED die. So 75% of the folks on there that are listing stuff as "double die" really have no idea what one is.

Captainkirk · 09-29-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bhp3rd

Of course it is sellers of doublED dies on eBay are the worst. They do not know what they are doing - some times I get my back up about it and go in there and start calling them on their stuff which while fun for a time does nothing to stop these people.
Hint, I search for the phrase "double" die instead of the only correct "doublED die" - no true die variety expert will ever use any other phrase than doublED die. So 75% of the folks on there that are listing stuff as "double die" really have no idea what one is.

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Captainkirk · 09-29-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bhp3rd

Of course it is sellers of doublED dies on eBay are the worst. They do not know what they are doing - some times I get my back up about it and go in there and start calling them on their stuff which while fun for a time does nothing to stop these people.
Hint, I search for the phrase "double" die instead of the only correct "doublED die" - no true die variety expert will ever use any other phrase than doublED die. So 75% of the folks on there that are listing stuff as "double die" really have no idea what one is.

I just listed a 55 pmdd, but I called it a 'double die', because as a seller I want the most buyers to find my auction. If i listed it correctly, less people would find it.

lincolnhoardr · 09-29-2009, 05:35 PM

Yikers $36.55 so far for this Die deteriation junker ! Thanks im still learning

bhp3rd · 09-30-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainkirk

I just listed a 55 pmdd, but I called it a 'double die', because as a seller I want the most buyers to find my auction. If i listed it correctly, less people would find it.

You did not list it correct you readily admit you did it to attract people.
You listed it to fool new people who might think this is a doublED die because they do not know yet that your listing, wording (double die) in reality means nothing at all. In one way that's correct because you are selling "nothing at all" except a coin struck from worn out and overpolished dies.
You are cheating, your are decieving people and you should change you listing to 1955-P with doubling of the last "5"" sometimes referred to as a "poor mans doubled die" and nobody really cares at all.
No one needs to find this auction because it is a piece of junk it's just an old worn out wheat cent worth 2 cents on the wholesale market.
You should remove that auction and refrain from putting up any others like it - you are decieving and cheating.

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