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Old 09-06-2009, 10:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1924-S Lincoln

Anyone want to guess what this would grade? It is raw and the seller says that the reverse is probably full red. Obviously, it is not the strongest strike, but it is a 24-S. I am guessing 62RB with a fair shot at 63. Any comment welcome.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow Dick! That is one kick butt 24 S.
This, 21-S and 26-S are my favorites by far. And this one is awesome. I love the die cracks on the reverse and if they weren't there I would say MS 64. Ill stick with 63 RD
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I got a 26-S also. Both from Numiscent. The 26-S is kind of ugly, but it is mostly red and I am pretty sure neither have been cleaned. I will post the 26-S later.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you have any closer pics?
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Do you have any closer pics?
Click on them. They are 500X500. But, none closer. Those are the sellers pix.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Dick, I looked at both of those coins myself, but I thought they might be colored somehow, just looked a little off. But when you get them in hand, it will be easier for you to see if they are OK. His coins are usually OK, but either the photography or the color is a little off in my vision.

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Old 09-07-2009, 01:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Dick, I looked at both of those coins myself, but I thought they might be colored somehow, just looked a little off. But when you get them in hand, it will be easier for you to see if they are OK. His coins are usually OK, but either the photography or the color is a little off in my vision.

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This was my first thought as well.

As far as the grading goes the hits on Lincoln would keep it down to 62-63 IMO. for the color designation it really depends on if it looks natural in hand.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I trust Tom enough to know that even if I think things are not what they are supposed to be, I know he will make it right.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have bought a few coins from him and the minute I zoomed in on the photos I though "Numiscent". I used to check his website all the time as he takes good photos, but a lot of them seem recolored (high end recolored by someone very good it). He ususally states the coins were recolored but not always. Anyway, very nice coin. Are you trying to get it graded? 50/50? to me but they are silly, picky right now.
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Tom @ Numiscent......

I have sold and traded a few high enders with this guy. 3-4-5 K coins......
He has made every deal right by me and is straight up, but if this is an Ebay purchase, be on alert as that tends to be dumping ground for problems. Dont judge the seller, judge the coin.



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I hate it, but I have to add this. Why is it raw?
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I hate it, but I have to add this. Why is it raw?
In looking at the website, it does seem that some of the coins sold by Tom look too good to be true... and if they were true then it would seem that a reasonable seller would have them put in plastic to maximize the potential for a sale and profit.

That said, I've dealt woth Tom on one occasion and it went very well. Though I was not buying a raw coin, I was buying a Lincoln cent that was already PCGS certified, the 1909-S MS66RD in my 1909 registry set.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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When I first looked at this coin my thought was a common weak strike, harshly cleaned and and retoned. But on closer inspection, that coin wasn't weakly struck at all. It even has finning, on each side, from being struck with excessive pressure. So I ask myself, why no detail then ?

On the reverse, the fields even look wavy - a trick of the light ? Maybe. But I think it more likely that this coin was struck through heavy grease. Now that might be what is causing the look of the coin having been messed with - or the coin was messed with. But either way, I think I'd pass on this one.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:31 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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When I first looked at this coin my thought was a common weak strike, harshly cleaned and and retoned. But on closer inspection, that coin wasn't weakly struck at all. It even has finning, on each side, from being struck with excessive pressure. So I ask myself, why no detail then ?

On the reverse, the fields even look wavy - a trick of the light ? Maybe. But I think it more likely that this coin was struck through heavy grease. Now that might be what is causing the look of the coin having been messed with - or the coin was messed with. But either way, I think I'd pass on this one.
It's called an over-used die. It was common practice at the branch mints in the 20's to turn out inferior product. If he passes, it might be a year or much longer before he finds another one.
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I don't disagree with AJ and RLM. I think Tom is a great guy (don't personally know him but had communications with him through some eBay purchases that were very nice). Just giving my observations. I own some recolored coins, and hoping they tone down in my album but very slow and sometimes they turn weird colors. Two questions for anyone:1. What do people recolor copper with- what products do that (don't worry I would never try except on junk)2. RLM- what did you buy these 2 coins for (including the 26 S- could you post photos of it?)? I mean to say how do you store them? Do you have a seperate raw collection that you intend to keep raw. I know your up there on the NGC registry. I have 3 ways I am collecting Lincolns (graded, Dansco album, and in IS 2x2's in Eagle pages in an binder)I think this coin looks like a 64 RD recolored.Thanks Boss
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