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Old 08-22-2009, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bizarre 1946 Nickel with "1946" date overstamped -- with backwards 4! (Now w/ pic)

I just found in my change one of the strangest nickels i've ever seen. I'm not sure if it is a minting error, some kind of experimental issue, or just a unique item created by some random prankster long long ago.

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It's a normal 1946 (Philadelphia) standard Jefferson nickel in fair/good condition (i.e. heavily worn down with normal wear and tear) that has one freakish attribute: over the 1946 date, someone has re-stamped the numbers "1946" incuse-style, very precisely done, except for a very strange glitch: the "4" is backwards!

You can still see remnants of the original 1946 date beneath the overstamping, which makes even less sense, since why re-stamp the same date over the old date?

In every other respect, the nickel looks completely normal -- there is no flaw in the leg of the "R" in "Pluribus," so it is not a Henning counterfeit.

Is this a known error? Anyone ever seen anything like it before? Anyone know what its origins might be? I suspect it was just some guy experimenting with a die-stamp at home back in the '40s, but still can't figure out why the "4" is backwards.

If it helps, I can try to take a picture of it and post that. Thanks.


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Old 08-22-2009, 09:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just my opinion , post mint damage , when a date is punched in a die it is incused so it will come out raised on a coin , even a repunchened date is incused in the die thus it would have to be raised on a coin . Since yours is incused on the coin , most likely occurred after it left the mint .
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Old 08-23-2009, 12:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OK, here are the pics (hope this works, never done it before):


Here's the front, with the weird overstamp visible.


Here's a close-up of the overstamp showing the original "1946" date still partly visible.


And here's the reverse, showing the effects of the stamping on the right edge.

Who did this, and why? Was it something "official," or just some nut goofing around?

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Old 08-23-2009, 12:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I vote for some nut goofing around. When work is slow and you have a hammer and some number stamps lying around one thing could lead to another and before you know it....
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I vote for some nut goofing around.
Second the motion.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yep, some nut job. You can see the evidence on the reverse that it was hammered.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, this is post mint damage. It's an interesting find but not worth anything.
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Post mint damage for sure. Also the comment was made that there is no hole in the R of PLURIBUS so it is not a Henning. Keep in mind that Henning made more than one reverse die (he claimed to have made 6) and the hole in the R is not on all of them. So you can't use this as a sole diagnostic for a Henning nickel.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi,

Definitely post-mint damage. The numbers were added with punches.

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Old 08-24-2009, 08:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The question is, where do you get a backwards 4 punch? Of course maybe it isn't backwards, maybe it is rotated clockwise 90 degrees.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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they make reverse #s, we use them all the time
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I do believe a little kid did this he was bored or a Nutty .
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The question is, where do you get a backwards 4 punch?
Stop and think about it - when dates were handpunched into the dies, they had to be incuse reversed characters, so that coin date would be correctly oriented raised numbers.
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Second the motion.
I don't think we'll need a vote on this.....
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