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09-20-2009, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fretboard  Very nice favorites!! How much did the half cent one set you back?? | Too much. $30 back in 1992, knowing it had been messed with.
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09-21-2009, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ldhair Too much. $30 back in 1992, knowing it had been messed with. | It is still a very nice token. I seen one not as nice as your sell for $60.00 
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Oh, what I meant is I've been noticing some Conder tokens on ebay lately, some are in slabs and some weren't. Anyways I just checked and none are listed today. They appeared to have been sprayed with ClearCoat or something similiar. They were shiny and or bright reddish brown in color. No concern now as I don't see anymore. I don't think they were counterfeit though, I was just wondering how and why they were so shiny.
| Well it can really depend on the quality of the pieces, and yes sometimes they may have been coated. Two hundred years ago te application of a thin coating of lacquer to protect the surfaces was not unusual. For example this piece I bought last night. 
Now the seller says that this piece has a thin layer of lacquer on it, but this series of tokens by Peter Kempson were struck by steam presses with polished blanks and dies and even by today standar they would be considered to be proofs. They do have reflective surfaces sharp detail and sharp squared off edges. and if they haven't been mishandled they really do look like this. This is a penny token so it is just a little smaller than a silver dollar and it is a 212 year old copper proof coin. And I will guarantee you it is not a counterfeit.
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09-21-2009, 09:58 PM
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So you won that one! I only connected on one cheap one last night from that seller - a Wilkison.
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09-22-2009, 11:47 AM
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Which one? I bid on a couple lower priced ones and got out bid.
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09-22-2009, 02:12 PM
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I picked up the Warwickshire 372 the seller was offering 
Yesterday I also received in the mail my previous purchase off of eBay - a Herefordshire #5 in an NGC66 suit. 
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09-23-2009, 11:50 AM
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Here one I had to many years to rember were I got or what county it is from.
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09-23-2009, 06:07 PM
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jello - your token is Irish, made for the firm Camac, Kyan & Camac, a copper-mining company. The partners in the firm were Turner Camac, John Kyan and John Camac.
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09-24-2009, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by farthing Yesterday I also received in the mail my previous purchase off of eBay - a Herefordshire #5 in an NGC66 suit. | Wow.....got to love those hard surfaces with great luster on an old, old hunk of copper. Ain't Conders great? Congratulations, farthing. Wish I could see your collection someday.
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09-24-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by farthing jello - your token is Irish, made for the firm Camac, Kyan & Camac, a copper-mining company. The partners in the firm were Turner Camac, John Kyan and John Camac. | Thank you now I know!!!
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10-31-2009, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ldhair Tokens are a lot of fun to collect. I buy one and learn about it and find a new one after that. Never learned much about this one.   | It is id Rulau NY 1024 and Wright 104. The metal is brass and was issued in the 1850s. Rulau valued this token at $8 F, $11 VF, $20 EF & $50 Unc in his 4th edition (2004).
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10-31-2009, 02:55 AM
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Why do alot of the high grade Condors look a nice brown but look oily or something?
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10-31-2009, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Conder101 Well it can really depend on the quality of the pieces, and yes sometimes they may have been coated. Two hundred years ago te application of a thin coating of lacquer to protect the surfaces was not unusual. For example this piece I bought last night.
Now the seller says that this piece has a thin layer of lacquer on it, but this series of tokens by Peter Kempson were struck by steam presses with polished blanks and dies and even by today standar they would be considered to be proofs. They do have reflective surfaces sharp detail and sharp squared off edges. and if they haven't been mishandled they really do look like this. This is a penny token so it is just a little smaller than a silver dollar and it is a 212 year old copper proof coin. And I will guarantee you it is not a counterfeit. | Very nice token!! I didn't even think a token could be a proof. Good info, anyone else got token pics?
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10-31-2009, 09:01 AM
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Very nice Fretboard
is the rim have a inscription?
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10-31-2009, 09:08 AM
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It is id Rulau NY 1024 and Wright 104. The metal is brass and was issued in the 1850s. Rulau valued this token at $8 F, $11 VF, $20 EF & $50 Unc in his 4th edition (2004).
| Thanks cwtokenman. Any chance it tells who William R Brown is?
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