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Old 07-09-2009, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what would this grade at

It has great luster also
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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One of the first posts I made was a grading post, my reference was the 1965 guidebook, some of the more seasoned collectors let me know that grading has changed over the last 40 years, so last week I bought coinworlds "Making the Grade"
Checking out your coin it seems to me that the grade is at least an au-58, for some reason the book skips from au-58 to ms-63r, I would guess it is somewhere between 58 and 63 but I could be missing the luster clues
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Depends on how much luster and how much rub there is on the coin.

It looks pretty clean, I'd say mint state looking at the rims. But you never know what's hiding under a scan.

Given all of the above, I'd venture to say it's a 63 RD, but I don't feel very confident at all in my assessment.
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Looks like a scan so that usually hides a lot of the luster. If that's true, I'd say 64RD
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Enough marks, particularly on the obverse, to keep it to a 63.
Rim at 9. Shoulder. Hair and behind the head.
But the real killer is whatever is happening on the rim at 1 to 2. Verdigris?
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MS-63RD and if you are lucky MS-64RD
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree with kanga but maybe a 60. The rim damage is what will take it down.
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I agree with kanga but maybe a 60. The rim damage is what will take it down.
Actually if that IS verdigris on the rim it would probably be body bagged by the TPGs.
If so, then any grade is moot.

Take a look at my Lincoln in the "Any Hope for This Coin?" post.
Same problem.
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Oh, I missed that! Good eyes guys!
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