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Page 1 of 2 1 2 >   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 07-03-2009, 03:45 PM   #1 (permalink) SteveL Junior Member   Join Date: May 2009 Location: South UK Posts: 23 My Mood: What does the term Mule mean? Just a quicky. What does the word "Mule" mean when referring to a coin please.   07-03-2009, 03:48 PM   #2 (permalink) borgovan Supporter**   Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,825 It's a coin that has been stamped from two dies that were not intended to be used together. For instance. A Lincoln cent obverse with a Roosevelt dime reverse. True mules are extremely rare.   07-03-2009, 04:01 PM   #3 (permalink) SteveL Junior Member   Join Date: May 2009 Location: South UK Posts: 23 My Mood: Thanks borgovan   07-03-2009, 04:08 PM   #4 (permalink) SteveL Junior Member   Join Date: May 2009 Location: South UK Posts: 23 My Mood: Right, so we are all familiar with British 20p Mule and all the publicity and thousands of pounds changing hands as we speak. Are there any other UK British Mule coins? Many thanks SteveL   07-03-2009, 04:23 PM   #5 (permalink) schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 988 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Here is a crazy mule!! http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page21a.html __________________ ~Jaime~ My Proof Roosevelt Set My Toned Roosevelt's   07-03-2009, 04:23 PM   #6 (permalink) physics-fan3.14 Senior Member   Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 656 My Mood: I don't know about British mules, but alot of US coin mules are highly suspect. There were some mules that a master counterfeiter later admitted to having created. Others are suspected to be created intentionally at the mint, either for profit or publicity. True mules, as stated above, are incredibly rare. __________________ I reserve the right to change my mind with new facts, experience, opinions, or viewpoints. My Award Winning Franklin Half Dollar NGC Registry set   07-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #7 (permalink) Treashunt The Other Frank     Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New York Posts: 17,722 Quote: Originally Posted by borgovan It's a coin that has been stamped from two dies that were not intended to be used together. For instance. A Lincoln cent obverse with a Roosevelt dime reverse. True mules are extremely rare. Like the Washington quarter obverse & the Sacagawea $ reverses. A supposed impossibility-- yet it happened. About 12-20 known, I forget how many. __________________ The Other Frank "Buy The Book Before The Coin!" Buy The Book before the Book: http://www.whitmanbooks.com/Default....tID=079482580X   07-03-2009, 04:39 PM   #8 (permalink) jloring Senior Citizen     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 554 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by physics-fan3.14 There were some mules that a master counterfeiter later admitted to having created. Mark Hoffman and the '59 Lincoln wheat back comes to mind... though I don't believe he ever came right out and claimed responsibility. __________________ Jim   07-03-2009, 04:49 PM   #9 (permalink) schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 988 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Quote: Originally Posted by jloring Mark Hoffman and the '59 Lincoln wheat back comes to mind... though I don't believe he ever came right out and claimed responsibility. He claimed responsibility http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v05n52a06.html __________________ ~Jaime~ My Proof Roosevelt Set My Toned Roosevelt's   07-03-2009, 05:04 PM   #10 (permalink) jloring Senior Citizen     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 554 My Mood: I can't find any current info on the '59 mule, but... "the coin was pulled from the auction at the eleventh hour when convicted forger Mark Hofmann claimed to have made the coin. Subsequent investigation failed to confirm this claim and the coin was re-consigned" I guess this coin has been discussed here before and I would like an update if anyone has it. __________________ Jim   07-03-2009, 05:21 PM   #11 (permalink) green18 ANA# R3129541     Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 7,319 My Mood: This thread (along with "Two Mules for Sister Sarah) came to mind when I read the OP...... http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t49923/ __________________ They also serve who only stand and wait....John Milton   07-03-2009, 06:15 PM   #12 (permalink) PennyGuy Ones and Twos     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jackson MI Posts: 1,771 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by green18 This thread (along with "Two Mules for Sister Sarah) came to mind when I read the OP...... http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t49923/ Loved that movie and Shirley MacLaine 's role __________________ ANA - MSNS - EAC - NLOC "A penny hit by lightning is worth six cents" Opie Taylor 2nd Annual CoinTalk Fundraiser: Official Thread   07-04-2009, 05:38 AM   #13 (permalink) deadmunny Member   Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 91 While we are on the subject of mules, what does "mule" mean in terms of paper money? Is it the same thing. Misused plates on the obverse and reverse of the bill?   07-04-2009, 09:46 AM   #14 (permalink) justafarmer Senior Member   Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 406 Generally speaking a mule is an item that stores a significant amount of monetary value and has the ability to inconspicuously pass through customs. The numismatic community adopted this term to specifically describe the mint error referenced above.   07-04-2009, 09:38 PM   #15 (permalink) Conder101 Numismatist   Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,057 Yes it means the same thing in paper money, two printing plate designs that were not intended to be used together. And some mule coins are not all that rare. __________________ Slab collector and researcher reported as of 12/29/06 132 companies 332 production varieties   Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Tags mule Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. 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