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Old 07-02-2009, 05:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'll agree to the grade of EF45 on that one, mark.
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so the piece presented in the op has not been graded by a TPG?
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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so the piece presented in the op has not been graded by a TPG?
No, the original piece is raw. But I'll tell you that Mark Feld is a former grader for NGC, so he knows his stuff.
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No, the original piece is raw. But I'll tell you that Mark Feld is a former grader for NGC, so he knows his stuff.
Even if I didn't know my stuff, the point is, that I have gone to the effort to back up my opinion, by providing an illustrated example. In order for all of us to have the opportunity to learn, I ask the same of those who disagree and who merely remark, without stating the basis for their opinions.
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and you point is mark? the op did not request that anyone backup the opinions with "illustrated" examples. It simply solicited opinions. But I'll give you a a good ole "pat" on you back anyway.
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Even if I didn't know my stuff, the point is, that I have gone to the effort to back up my opinion, by providing an illustrated example. In order for all of us to have the opportunity to learn, I ask the same of those who disagree and who merely remark, without stating the basis for their opinions.
if this isn't a condescending tone, what is? and mark says he doesen't expect others to do as he does? hmmmmm

fooled me. Let me ask you this, what is the sense of asking for member opinions if all they are going to do is refer to and agree with illustrated examples ? hell , get the coloring book and make certain you stay within the lines.
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I will buy at Fine prices any problem free Bust halves you have that look like my original coin. I'll empty my savings account and buy them all.
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By the way, for an example of what a high F/borderline VF Bustie really looks like, take a look at the top CBH that mark_h recently purchased, shown here: http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t59433/ There is no way your going to tell me my coin looks like his.
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well, you asked for an opinion, and that is what I stated and don't retract from it. I hope if you do send it to a TPG, you are awarded the grade you think it is worthy of. I don't gain or loose anything, right or wrong. I've never been 100% in my life. I'm not saying you got "taken" , but for me, I would have not paid XF money for it. Regards. Tom
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As for the variety and my error, well I took a stab at 108 from memory, which too has failed me as of late. I should not have done that. Oh well. Thanks for the info.
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I grade the ops coin a very high VF or XF-40 . As to calling the coin cleaned and with no eye appeal I'll have to disagree , a light dip maybe , but it is a very appealing coin , I love these older die states when the stars start stretching to the rim , this coin has definate eye appeal too me .
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Anyone else care to guess the Overton before I reveal it?
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Just got this coin raw for a steal of a deal. I'm quite sure its been dipped, but the surfaces look alright - no hairlines or anything major. It's going to go in an envelope and hopefully get some color and skin back.

So guess the grade and Overton (and price I paid, too, but no cheating!)


First to the original question. I think XF40 less wear than the other which I had at VF35. Both are nice coins and will grade at XF at a tpg. At least in my opinion.

As for the overton number it is O-112. I had it right and then went to verify on coinzip and guess what I saw? Just so you know I use coinzip as a reference so if you post it there I will see it. After I have the overton number I almost always goto coinzip and start comparing coins. I even do that with my busties. I don't post a lot over there, but I check it on occasion.
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Ding ding ding, you are correct mark_h. I thought this was a mighty nice snag, being an R4+ and all

Yeah, I use coinzip quite a bit also. Next time I will wait a bit for everyone to guess before posting there, since it is a good reference.
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The worst part is I thought I checked coinzip earlier this week and saw this coin, but it must have been one of your others.
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