Great Britain 2 Shillings 1859 (CounterStamped) C D Milliken

dctjr80 · 07-02-2009, 02:00 AM

I understand that some counterstamps have a value of their own. Would any one happen to know how much this counterstamp is worth? And the possible value of the coin with the counterstamps on it?

**davemac** · 07-02-2009, 06:27 PM

i find it very odd to still see the conterstamp with that much wear on high point's
But doe's not meen it cant happen as to value i have no i cule
Somebody else might
Dave

dctjr80 · 07-02-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by davemac

i find it very odd to still see the conterstamp with that much wear on high point's
But doe's not meen it cant happen as to value i have no i cule
Somebody else might
Dave

1 the counterstamps are on the fields which are lower on the coins surface then the high points that are worn.

2 the counterstamps could have been aplied a couple years after the coin was already in circulation.

So what is odd?

cwtokenman · 07-03-2009, 03:32 AM

I can't read what the counterstamp on the left side says, or is it the same as the one on the right? Being listed in Brunks is a good thing (requires at least 2 known examples) as far as getting a feel for how common a particular counterstamp is. Unfortunately, the only MILLIKEN counterstamps (let me know if I read that correctly) are MILLIKEN and M.I. MILLIKEN, both on U.S. large cents.

Hard to tell from the photos, but does it appear that the counterstamp was made with a one piece custom punch or done with individual letter punches?

dctjr80 · 07-03-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cwtokenman

I can't read what the counterstamp on the left side says, or is it the same as the one on the right? Being listed in Brunks is a good thing (requires at least 2 known examples) as far as getting a feel for how common a particular counterstamp is. Unfortunately, the only MILLIKEN counterstamps (let me know if I read that correctly) are MILLIKEN and M.I. MILLIKEN, both on U.S. large cents.

Hard to tell from the photos, but does it appear that the counterstamp was made with a one piece custom punch or done with individual letter punches?

Three counterstamps on this coin and all read, C D MILLIKEN , it looks to me to be one piece punch.
There are the two CS's on the obverse and one on the reverse directly under the word ONE from ONE FLORIN.

Thank You for helping me. I did see the MILLIKEN & M.I. MILLIKEN on a counterstamp website.

cwtokenman · 07-03-2009, 03:58 PM

Counterstamps made with one piece punches are generally more desirable, and also more likely to have multiple pieces known. Were all of the counterstamps made with the same punch? I can not tell from the photos.

dctjr80 · 07-03-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cwtokenman

Counterstamps made with one piece punches are generally more desirable, and also more likely to have multiple pieces known. Were all of the counterstamps made with the same punch? I can not tell from the photos.

Yes, it would appear so.

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