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p.s. F-15 and XF 45 would be my grade guesses. The second coin may have claims to AU details-wise, but I wouldn't grade it that high because of a relative lack of luster.

coinman0456

Ok great......kinda getting off the op subject though opinions on the example presented?

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mark_h

Coinman always feel free to post opinions on coins. And yes at times there is vigorous discussions on those grades or opinions. In this case I agree with Doug and Mike both - I netted the coin to XF, but figured a tpg would grade it AU. Well that is, if they grade it - you just never know(or at least me) with tpg's on what they might do. In this case I thought both varieties were cool. Of course with 1820's only having minted 750k I have bought all I have seen at the local dealer. And that gives I believe 3 or 4 varieties of 1820. Need to go validate that.

Thanks for the comments all.

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rzage

Nice coins , the '26 I think would get a 55-58 AT A TPG .The '20 is borderline F-VF , IMO . rzage

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the_man12

I assume you are referring to the 1820 and I agree with you it's a close call. Probably could pull out a vf20 at a tpg. Nice coins!

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coinman0456

exactly, if they grade it at all, hence my unwillingness to pay XF money for it. It's a problem coin.

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vigorous discussion is always welcomed in a comfortable temperment.

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mark_h

Very valid comment and accepted. And I am not above buying problem coins that I like - see the thread about naval jelly in coin chat. When I look at the busties at the local coin store several things go thru my mind - 1) do I have the variety 2) do I like the coin and its details 3) what do I grade it(or net grade it) 4) now bounce my grade against the range I think the price should be in. I do understand that when I die my heirs may not get back what I paid - but that is more than they had to start with and I got to enjoy it while I was here.

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coinman0456

Yes mark, same boat here. As I wished Physics in a reply, I hope that should he send it in to a TPG, he gets the grade he believes it is worthy of. So I would be wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time , I hope! LOL I just believe that if Mark Felds comments or replies were meant "instructively" from his point of view, it could have been composed in a more inviting and inquisitive tone and directness.I don't know the man, neither he, know me. We each bring something to this table, I would like to believe. I would suggest from his position however, it still is a no questions ask high VF-XF. I bow, still holding my opinion.

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Paddy54

Nice coins I put two bids on these last night and then fell asleep. DUH!!! 260435199161 e bay items....They went for $750.00 A lot of 5 bust 1/2's 1 1821 2 1824 1 1827 and a 1829. All looked like nice coins

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I am thinking that before I get too enamored with the capped bust halves I need to acquaint myself with the Overton book and especially the Davison book about contemporary counterfeits.

One of the premier pieces of advice in collecting is, BUY THE BOOK BEFORE YOU BUY THE COIN, I capitalized it because it must be important since I hear it so often.