Need your opinion

**zekeguzz** · 06-30-2009, 08:47 PM

I've have a feeling this is gonna hurt. Before I send this 1999-P type II WAM to ANACS Iwant to know if you think this cent has been cleaned, rubbed, brushed or something. I've had it in a 2x2 since I found it in 10-5-2008. I've done nothing to it and you can't see much to the naked eye but on many scans 'I've got that ole feelin'. So I need your expert and honest opinions. Thanks alot everyone.

Leadfoot · 06-30-2009, 08:58 PM

What's going on on Lincoln's lower bustline? Rub/post mint damage?

I see nothing else to be concerned about except perhaps the luster -- but scans such as the ones you posted typically don't show luster well.

I am anything but an expert on late date Lincoln's, so take the above FWIW...Mike

Mark Feld · 06-30-2009, 09:12 PM

As imaged, I see no evidence of cleaning.

**zekeguzz** · 06-30-2009, 09:31 PM

Thanks. Yes the abrasions on the lower obverse has me concerned. It also seems to carry on over the whole obverse in the same direction but much, much lighter scrapes. Just as if someone took a rag or a q-tip to it. I've seen this on many other coins . I not not sure if this is normal circulation wear or what.

Leadfoot · 07-01-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zekeguzz

Thanks. Yes the abrasions on the lower obverse has me concerned. It also seems to carry on over the whole obverse in the same direction but much, much lighter scrapes. Just as if someone took a rag or a q-tip to it. I've seen this on many other coins . I not not sure if this is normal circulation wear or what.

Are the lines incuse or excuse? The reason I ask is because the lines in the fields have the appearance of (excuse) die polish -- as made from the mint and not problematic. But it's hard to tell from the photos.

coinman0456 · 07-01-2009, 08:18 AM

They look to be only surface markings.

**zekeguzz** · 07-01-2009, 05:19 PM

I'll try and get better scans. Thanks

coinman0456 · 07-01-2009, 12:01 AM

probably went through a bank counting machine.

BadThad · 07-03-2009, 05:11 PM

If the luster is there, the marks are just due to circulation. If you found this in the wild, I seriously doubt it's been intentionally cleaned.

**zekeguzz** · 07-03-2009, 06:56 PM

Thanks BT, those are reassuring words. But the more I read and see pics of whizzed coins the more I believe that's what it is. Oh well, it'll all come out in the attribution. Too show my niaveness, should I mention this on my submission form? Reason why I ask is if and when I do sell it I don't want to stick someone else with this cent if I think it has been whizzed but it not picked up by ANACS. Yes it sounds like I'm an innocent Allison but I've got a concience too.

Mark Feld · 07-03-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zekeguzz

Thanks BT, those are reassuring words. But the more I read and see pics of whizzed coins the more I believe that's what it is. Oh well, it'll all come out in the attribution. Too show my niaveness, should I mention this on my submission form? Reason why I ask is if and when I do sell it I don't want to stick someone else with this cent if I think it has been whizzed but it not picked up by ANACS. Yes it sounds like I'm an innocent Allison but I've got a concience too.

I see no evidence at all that the coin has been whizzed. A whizzed coin will display a very different look from your coin (at least as imaged) and unnatural luster. But if, by chance it has been whizzed and isn't showing up in the images, ANACS should have no problem picking that up.

**zekeguzz** · 07-04-2009, 12:27 AM

Okay and THANKS. ZEKE

desertgem · 07-03-2009, 07:29 PM

I agree with Thad. If you imagine the cent put into the tight coin pocket of a pair of levis (tm) and rubbed back and forth, maybe with other coins, I can see why it looks like someone cleaned it. I can also imagine most of the movement would be on one direction until it was removed and re-entered circulation.

Jim

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