Two type of errors - Page 5

mikediamond · 06-28-2009, 02:18 PM

Due to the complexity and subtlety of the error, I can't come to any conclusion without examining it myself under a microscope. Depending on the angle of the shot and the area that's been zeroed-in on, it variously resembles a layer of glue, a strike-thru, a struck-in metal fragment, and a planchet problem.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikediamond

Due to the complexity and subtlety of the error, I can't come to any conclusion without examining it myself under a microscope. Depending on the angle of the shot and the area that's been zeroed-in on, it variously resembles a layer of glue, a strike-thru, a struck-in metal fragment, and a planchet problem.

Ok I will agree with the conclusion on this coin

.Well maybe it;s all of the above ,that will make everybody happy

JC

DoK U Mint · 06-28-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikediamond

Due to the complexity and subtlety of the error, I can't come to any conclusion without examining it myself under a microscope. Depending on the angle of the shot and the area that's been zeroed-in on, it variously resembles a layer of glue, a strike-thru, a struck-in metal fragment, and a planchet problem.

I'm learning too much about how so many things can go wrong at once. And here is my conclusion~
The coin has a planchet/lamination problem
that was struck through
with an inclusion
before it got stained
and somebody tried to glue it to back together?

I LOVE it.

Here's my plan. I get $1000 insurance, mail it off to you, Mike.
Hope it gets lost in transit and I can buy a better camera!

I at 1st also thought it had some crazy glue on it. That was months ago and I started looking at CONICA posts. I've always loved the odd.
And now that I've become more intimate with the coin and the things that can happen to a coin (made from gold/shot into space/abducted by aliens/stolen from the Smithonian/used to buy stamps)....

I need to send this to you so you can write it up for CONECA!!!

It's a no lose deal for me. If I ever see it again I can then put it up on eBay and still buy a new camera.

If you want to PM the address to me I will entrust it to you and let you do your thing and we all will learn.....What could possible go right with this coin?
Sacagawea gets her 15 minutes of fame. I could get a new camera.
Are we allowed to place wagers here? I bet it's a 2000 P Sacagawea.
Dang, I'ld better count the tail feathers 1st! It might be a Cheerio!!!
That would clinch it.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 06:16 PM

If you had this coin you are probably better off getting this coin authenticated maybe. I know this coin is a lamination error look at the fields no it could be striation marks too a polished die maybe no WHAT DOES EVERBODY THINK ABOUT THE FIELDS OF THIS COIN.
JC

RUFUSREDDOG · 06-28-2009, 06:43 PM

oK.
yOUR PhotoShopping is better than His PhotoShopping.

You seem to be a Mac dependent kinnda image viewer.

And that can be a good thing.

Mike? Can you accept this "thing" and sort it all out?

jello · 06-29-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by just coins

If you had this coin you are probably better off getting this coin authenticated maybe. I know this coin is a lamination error look at the fields no it could be striation marks too a polished die maybe no WHAT DOES EVERBODY THINK ABOUT THE FIELDS OF THIS COIN.
JC

I always said that what W meant worthless and no one else seam to understand!

mikediamond · 06-29-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

I'm learning too much about how so many things can go wrong at once. And here is my conclusion~
The coin has a planchet/lamination problem
that was struck through
with an inclusion
before it got stained
and somebody tried to glue it to back together?

I LOVE it.

Here's my plan. I get $1000 insurance, mail it off to you, Mike.
Hope it gets lost in transit and I can buy a better camera!

I at 1st also thought it had some crazy glue on it. That was months ago and I started looking at CONICA posts. I've always loved the odd.
And now that I've become more intimate with the coin and the things that can happen to a coin (made from gold/shot into space/abducted by aliens/stolen from the Smithonian/used to buy stamps)....

I need to send this to you so you can write it up for CONECA!!!

It's a no lose deal for me. If I ever see it again I can then put it up on eBay and still buy a new camera.

If you want to PM the address to me I will entrust it to you and let you do your thing and we all will learn.....What could possible go right with this coin?
Sacagawea gets her 15 minutes of fame. I could get a new camera.
Are we allowed to place wagers here? I bet it's a 2000 P Sacagawea.
Dang, I'ld better count the tail feathers 1st! It might be a Cheerio!!!
That would clinch it.

My e-mail address is in the public domain. It's mdia1@aol.com. Send me an e-mail and I'll let you know where to send it.

Mike

DoK U Mint · 06-29-2009, 09:26 PM

Could not stop myself.

Just went and dropped her into a acetone bath.

mikediamond · 06-29-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

Could not stop myself.

Just went and dropped her into a acetone bath.

And the result?

DoK U Mint · 06-30-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikediamond

And the result?

I feel like the Texan before his hanging~when asked if he had any last words, replied "This is sure gonna be a lesson to me."

Got some NEW 100% acetone and a clean ceramic saucer. Placed the coin at an angle so I got the most exposure to the acetone, covered it up with another saucer after submerging it and put it out in the garage overnight to soak.

Well, of course it was all evaporated by this morning. duh.

Refilled the saucer for a few hours again this morning. Retrieved it: Took some pictures.

Now it looks like a stained rusted bad plancet with less glue on it.

DoK U Mint · 06-30-2009, 03:54 PM

It also seems to have grown a CUD above the L of Liberty!

But I really jumped back in with an old question.

What is WHIZZED? Ultrasonic cleaning or do you just pee on it?

mikediamond · 06-30-2009, 04:30 PM

As I said, glue can be deceptive. No need to send it to me now, of course.

Whizzed coins are polished with a rotating brush. They feature hairline scratches. Quite ugly under high magnification.

DoK U Mint · 06-30-2009, 07:10 PM

I'll keep looking for something I hope worthy of proper confirmation in the future. Thank you for your expertise.

The hunt is where I get my fun anyway. And I've gained from this.

Thank you, again, for your Right On observation even from my funky photos.

When I finally get something worthy of swapping for a better camera you will be the 3rd to know.

just coins · 07-01-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

I'll keep looking for something I hope worthy of proper confirmation in the future. Thank you for your expertise.

The hunt is where I get my fun anyway. And I've gained from this.

Thank you, again, for your Right On observation even from my funky photos.

When I finally get something worthy of swapping for a better camera you will be the 3rd to know.

I don't really understand how you could not tell there was glue on the surface of your coin in the first place makes no sence to me

I have come across many in circulation, and it was so obvious when I had the coin in hand that I new right away it was glue ,to be honest with you a novice could even distingush the differance on a coin not to be disrespectful to you ,and I still don't see how glue could be that deceptive in the photos usually there will be a white apearance on the fields somewhere to indicate this. (There's more to this story)

JC

Joe

DoK U Mint · 07-01-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by just coins

I don't really understand how you could not tell there was glue on the surface of your coin in the first place makes no sence to me

I have come across many in circulation, and it was so obvious when I had the coin in hand that I new right away it was glue ,to be honest with you a novice could even distingush the differance on a coin not to be disrespectful to you ,and I still don't see how glue could be that deceptive in the photos usually there will be a white apearance on the fields somewhere to indicate this. (There's more to this story)

JC

Joe

I was not attempting deception but rather seeking explanation.

Perhaps after your eyes, when they pass the 60 year mark as mine have, you will understand. I tried to be kind to the coin in the beginning but only after I got harsh did I (we) figure it out.

Being born stoopid is something I'm trying to outgrow which is why I ask questions here.

Oh, and don't solder 25 micron platinum wires to stainless steel braided wire for a living while looking through a microscope or have welding sculptures as a hobby as I have done, if you expect to always see what is obvious to others forever.

You may notice I use a large font here quite often. It gives me a chance to read what I've done wrong with fewer mistakes on my part as I attempt to outgrow my novice apprenticeship.

Didn't Beethoven end up going deaf? So what's wrong with trying to be a semi~blind coin collector?

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