Two type of errors - Page 3

mikediamond · 06-27-2009, 05:17 PM

DoK U Mint, have you excluded the possibility that your coin is perfectly normal and is simply covered by a layer of clear glue? Glue can produce a very deceptive appearance.

just coins · 06-27-2009, 06:34 PM

I think Mike may have something here maybe another possiblity.

I notice some white areas on the coin. I showed the area in red.

JC

DoK U Mint · 06-27-2009, 09:17 PM

I'm with you guys.

There is a straight recording of off color tinting recorded with some lines shone as blue in the photo. (?) Digital photos are not my beloved old Kodachrome.

I'm gonna miss it.

But I would think that crazy glue, aka,
Cyanoacrylates

Would make the areas thicker, not thinner.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

I'm with you guys.

There is a straight recording of off color tinting recorded with some lines shone as blue in the photo. (?) Digital photos are not my beloved old Kodachrome.

I'm gonna miss it.

But I would think that crazy glue, aka,
Cyanoacrylates

Would make the areas thicker, not thinner.

Could you please try and photo different angles of the obverse it may really help to determine this coin

The way you photographed this coin it looks like a lamination plating problem on the fields to me anyway , and maybe are througing others off as well so I do advice better pics ,are definetly needed if you can do that

JC
JC

mikediamond · 06-28-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

I'm with you guys.

There is a straight recording of off color tinting recorded with some lines shone as blue in the photo. (?) Digital photos are not my beloved old Kodachrome.

I'm gonna miss it.

But I would think that crazy glue, aka,
Cyanoacrylates

Would make the areas thicker, not thinner.

Glue can produce a deceptive appearance. It can make the affected area appear raised or sunken. The reason I think it might be transparent glue is that the design in the "sunken" area is just as clear as elsewhere on the coin. This should not be the case with a strike-through error.

DoK U Mint · 06-28-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikediamond

Glue can produce a deceptive appearance. It can make the affected area appear raised or sunken. The reason I think it might be transparent glue is that the design in the "sunken" area is just as clear as elsewhere on the coin. This should not be the case with a strike-through error.

This is getting stimulating! I had just jumped over to CONECA to try to learn some more stuff about then BINGO!

MikeDiamond gets to see my prize!

Now I've GOT to more more photos.

mikediamond · 06-28-2009, 12:26 PM

Try looking at it under a microscope at a low angle. Focus on the edge of the "strike-through".

DoK U Mint · 06-28-2009, 12:34 PM

I don't have access to 'scope right now.

But there is another quick "something" on the coin.

mikediamond · 06-28-2009, 12:45 PM

That area looks like more of a stain. Perhaps the glue layer is unusually thin here, or maybe it came off, leaving a discolored area behind. More evidence that we're not dealing with a strike-through error.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 01:12 PM

The more i see this coin the fields look like a peeling effect raised metal like i said from the beginning this is lamination plated problem coin.
I see it now with these pics Mike look at the areas I indicated on the coin

JC

DoK U Mint · 06-28-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just coins

The more i see this coin the fields look like a peeling effect raised metal like i said from the beginning this is lamination plated problem coin.
I see it now with these pics Mike look at the areas I indicated on the coin

JC

Sorry about wasting everybody's time here but at least I'm learning how to use my camera!

I've been wasting my time trying take a GOOD photo.

I should be trying to make a topo map of it and forget the beauty of it.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoK U Mint

Sorry about wasting everybody's time here but at least I'm learning how to use my camera!

I've been wasting my time trying take a GOOD photo.

I should be trying to make a topo map of it and forget the beauty of it.

That;s not a natural shot it's not going to bring the details out on the error on the coin at all, the pics above are more closer to what the color of the coin is.

I rather go by those pics then the new one that;s for sure and By the old pics the fields look like there peeling and leaving some metal on the surface to me still a lamey to me

Just send it in to somebody with real good knowledge maybe me i;m also a dealer ,or Mike diamond
to get an exact diagnostics on your coin\\It;s not a strike thru and Mike said that to.The coin has a planchet problem

Joe
JC

rockdude · 06-28-2009, 02:01 PM

Don't feel you're wasting any one's time here. It's a great learning experience. Your photo's show what appears to be a raised object by the way the shadow is on the same side as the details of the coin.

mikediamond · 06-28-2009, 02:18 PM

Due to the complexity and subtlety of the error, I can't come to any conclusion without examining it myself under a microscope. Depending on the angle of the shot and the area that's been zeroed-in on, it variously resembles a layer of glue, a strike-thru, a struck-in metal fragment, and a planchet problem.

just coins · 06-28-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikediamond

Due to the complexity and subtlety of the error, I can't come to any conclusion without examining it myself under a microscope. Depending on the angle of the shot and the area that's been zeroed-in on, it variously resembles a layer of glue, a strike-thru, a struck-in metal fragment, and a planchet problem.

Ok I will agree with the conclusion on this coin

.Well maybe it;s all of the above ,that will make everybody happy

JC

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