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Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >   LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes 06-14-2009, 07:34 AM   #16 (permalink) coinman0456 Coin Collector     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 1,445 Blog Entries: 1 Well Done! Thank you. __________________   06-14-2009, 02:13 PM   #17 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD See, I don't think this is necessarily true. I would say O mint Morgan's were more frequently weakly struck than the other mints. But if you got all of the morgan O minted dollars, ever minted (lets say none were ever melted, and you owned all the morgans ever) wouldn't you see that most are weakly struck? Yes you'd have a good number of however many million well struck examples, but I think you'd find more O's that are weakly struck. __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 02:17 PM   #18 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,382 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by tmoneyeagles But if you got all of the morgan O minted dollars, ever minted (lets say none were ever melted, and you owned all the morgans ever) wouldn't you see that most are weakly struck? Yes you'd have a good number of however many million well struck examples, but I think you'd find more O's that are weakly struck. No, I don't think you would. You would find that some of the dates have the majority weakly struck...but not most of the total coins. This is the misconception I'm trying to point out. I'll agree that quality control at the New Orleans mint wasn't as good as the others (for various reasons) and as a result a higher percentage of the total minted coins are weakly struck than other mints. Like many things, the O mint has a bad stigma that makes them appear worse than they actually are. There are several years that are quite well struck. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   06-14-2009, 02:20 PM   #19 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD No, I don't think you would. You would find that some of the dates have the majority weakly struck...but not most of the total coins. This is the misconception I'm trying to point out. I'll agree that quality control at the New Orleans mint wasn't as good as the others (for various reasons) and as a result a higher percentage of the total minted coins are weakly struck than other mints. Like many things, the O mint has a bad stigma that makes them appear worse than they actually are. There are several years that are quite well struck. But note, I'm not disagreeing with this either, YES, some dates are weakly struck, some are poorly struck, and some are intermediately struck Look at the pics I brought forth on page 1, 83 and 84 O are what you called intermediate. My 1883 O is weakly struck, and my 1884 O is a very good strike, so I have an example of a good strike, and a weak strike, in the intermediate years. If you look hard enough, you can find a well struck example of every year __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 02:22 PM   #20 (permalink) raider34 Morgans Morgans Morgans     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,022 My Mood: Great info Camaro! Thanks for posting   06-14-2009, 02:24 PM   #21 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,382 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by tmoneyeagles My 1883 O is weakly struck, and my 1884 O is a very good strike, so I have an example of a good strike, and a weak strike, in the intermediate years. If you look hard enough, you can find a well struck example of every year Yes, but I think you are misunderstanding what I meant when I classified a Intermediate Strike. I defined the classification criteria of each group. Here is a direct quote from my original post. Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD The second group is Intermediately Struck. These tend to be years where there is a very wide strike quality out there. You can find examples of these coins with full strikes and completely flat. These are dates I would be looking for nicer struck coins because they are out there with a little searching. I think you are proving my point about the "Intermediate" years without realizing it. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   06-14-2009, 02:27 PM   #22 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD Yes, but I think you are misunderstanding what I meant when I classified a Intermediate Strike. I defined the classification criteria of each group. Here is a direct quote from my original post. I think you are proving my point about the "Intermediate" years without realizing it. No I understood it clearly, for those years it was either a hit or miss. Some were fully struck, some were weakly struck __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 02:28 PM   #23 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: I think what I meant by my statement, was that, out of those intermediate years, I proved that you can have well struck and poorly struck, thus confirming your oringal statement of a wide variety __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 02:56 PM   #24 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,382 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by tmoneyeagles I think what I meant by my statement, was that, out of those intermediate years, I proved that you can have well struck and poorly struck, thus confirming your oringal statement of a wide variety Then I think we are in agreement. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   06-14-2009, 03:17 PM   #25 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Quote: Originally Posted by CamaroDMD Then I think we are in agreement. Camaro, that is a first! Should we throw a party? LOL! Everybody, party at T$'s House, Camaro and T$ agreed on something! LOL!!!! __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 04:11 PM   #26 (permalink) WLhalves Member     Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 130 My Mood: Thank you very informative always appreciate a well written thread.   06-14-2009, 06:07 PM   #27 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Just got another O minted dollar I paid a couple cents under retail, for an 1885 O NGC MS63 a fwe minutes ago... And I'm excited... I'll take good pics when they come in, and see if we have a full strike, or a weaker strike __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-14-2009, 10:33 PM   #28 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Okay I just bought another O minted morgan dollar, an 1898 O NGC MS64 This will be the first MS64 in my collection, I will take pics of this along with the 85 O and compare them to my 1883 and 1884 O morgans, and see which one of my intermediate struck morgans, has the best struck, and which has the worst. __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-18-2009, 05:39 PM   #29 (permalink) tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer     Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,342 My Mood: Okay camaro, I got another pretty well struck dollar, that is in the "intermediate" section... I'm doing pretty good! LOL! If that 1885 O I bought is another well struck one, I'll have 3 out of 4 well struck morgans in the intermediate years! __________________ From The Desk Of, -T$ (Kokapowan Tribe Leader) http://www.tmoneyeagles.webs.com/   06-18-2009, 06:36 PM   #30 (permalink) CamaroDMD Dental Student     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,382 My Mood: That strike looks pretty nice to me. __________________ The Truth About "O" Mint Morgan Dollars   Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 > Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Would you like to support CoinTalk? Coin Talk Code of Honor 1. Post unto others as you would have them post unto you. 2. Keep it clean, like a 1950s family television show. 3. 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