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Old 06-04-2009, 11:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The problem is I can't say I have a laptop I'd trade for a large cent. Or a top of the line GPS I'd trade for something. To do either, breaks the rules.

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And I agree with that - sorry, but have to argue against allowing that. So the more people who post in the open forum the more you can PM and try to trade with them for coins. To me it just becomes to risky and dicey for Peter.

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Old 06-04-2009, 11:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Anybody want to trade a MS-64 PCGS Saint for my Ted Nugent signed Ted Nugent Gibson ES-175 model guitar?

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Old 06-04-2009, 11:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Anybody want to trade a MS-64 PCGS Saint for my Ted Nugent signed Ted Nugent Gibson ES-175 model guitar?

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Old 06-05-2009, 01:57 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I guess I din' tknow the rules for that when I listed wanting to trade 22 oz of Morels for some silver. Bout to go see if it got deleted.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:40 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Although I don't feel it should be an open market. I do feel it could be more leniant. I recently PM'd Doug if I could sell something I frequently use to show my coins to people and was told it was not related enough to coins. I feel people here could have used this product but because it isn't DIRECTLY tied to coins it's a no no. Would a metal detector be directly related? How about a camera?
Those should be acceptions IMO, where as a GPS should be offlimits.
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:06 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Would a metal detector be directly related? How about a camera?
Those should be acceptions IMO, where as a GPS should be offlimits.
What about someone that uses a GPS to plot the areas they metal detect? I've got a kewl little pocket one that would be perfect!

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Old 06-05-2009, 09:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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snaz - you aske dme if you could use the Open forum to sell a camera - I said no because the rules say -

"Post only information regarding buying, selling, and trading your coins and Numismatic related items ( Including Tokens/Medals ) here."

Now that's pretty clear isn't it ? And to argue that a camera is numismatically related - well, it's so obvious I don't think we even need to discuss it.

And Toad - ya know, Peter and I don't just sit here and wait for messages to come in so we can answer them. You sent me your PM at 12:21 yesterday afternoon and I answered it today before 8 AM. I'd say that's pretty reasonable response time. My answer was again - no, it is only to be used to sell numismatically related items, as per the rules.

Now you guys are always free to discuss this kind of thing, but I'll tell you this - when it comes to the rules, member opinion on the subject isn't going to go very far. We set the rules up to make Coin Talk what it is, and that's how we want it. Apparently most of the members like it that way because Coin Talk has become the biggest and most popular, privately owned internet coin forum there is. And I am a strong believer in the old saying - if it aint broke, don't fix it. It obviously isn't broke.

Now Peter has repeatedly stated flat out that he is working on revamping the Open & Auction forums this year in order to make them more beneficial and advantageous to the members of this forum - purely for the benefit of the members. The purpose is to allow you guys to do things here that you have never been able to do before. I'll leave it at that for now.

But until that time comes - things stay as they are. Sorry, end of story.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Otay! But remember, Nothing's Perfect! So change is inevitable or things go downhill.

So while "Nothing's Broken" may be true, that doesn't mean everything's the way it should be forever, it just means it's otay for now. Life is no different. Also, if your only source for inspiration is yourself, then you are missing out on all the wonderful ideas the rest of us have so while our opinion may not be wanted, it is needed. That too is life!

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Old 06-05-2009, 10:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Why is it that people always miss the obvious - like the Support and Feedback section ? Where the sole purpose is to allow us to listen to member ideas.

But as I said, when it comes to the rules, Peter is of course the bottom line. We discuss the rules and what they should be among all the mods - but it is Peter's decison to make and we follow it. I would think it would be obvious why we don't put much credence regarding the rules on member opinion. That is how it should be and how it will be. As to everything else, by all means, speak up.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:11 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Why is it that people always miss the obvious - like the Support and Feedback section ? Where the sole purpose is to allow us to listen to member ideas.

But as I said, when it comes to the rules, Peter is of course the bottom line. We discuss the rules and what they should be among all the mods - but it is Peter's decison to make and we follow it. I would think it would be obvious why we don't put much credence regarding the rules on member opinion. That is how it should be and how it will be. As to everything else, by all means, speak up.
It wasn't me that missed the obvious, it was you that said you don't listen to our opinion so it is you that missed the obvious . . . the Support and Feedback Forum, in your own words, is actually the Support Forum, since Feedback would require someone to actually listen to our opinion.

You've struck a nerve with me on this one and that's why I am being so outspoken about the subject. I know that someone that won't listen to an idea is a closed minded person and I don't like closed minded peeps and I would hope you are not closed minded but I have found that the older a person gets, the more closed their mind gets (generally speaking) but they don't realize they are closed minded because a closed minded person usually doesn't know they are closed minded.


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It wasn't me that missed the obvious, it was you that said you don't listen to our opinion so it is you that missed the obvious . . . the Support and Feedback Forum, in your own words, is actually the Support Forum, since Feedback would require someone to actually listen to our opinion.
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I know that someone that won't listen to an idea is a closed minded person and I don't like closed minded peeps and I would hope you are not closed minded but I have found that the older a person gets, the more closed their mind gets (generally speaking) but they don't realize they are closed minded because a closed minded person usually doesn't know they are closed minded.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think 'idea's' and comments on 'rules, are two different things. While the two might occaisionaly overlap, an idea on how to make the forum better with a suggestion on a board, and a suggestion on tweaking a rule will of course be looked at differently my the management.

In my experience, they DO listen to the ideas of us members. But while they are always looking at making the forum better, the base rules are theirs to make and enforce. I think they listen to all ideas - even those about possibly changing rules... but regardless, we follow the rules, or are free to leave (which of course we as memebrs hate to see happen!)
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snaz - you aske dme if you could use the Open forum to sell a camera - I said no because the rules say -

"Post only information regarding buying, selling, and trading your coins and Numismatic related items ( Including Tokens/Medals ) here."

Now that's pretty clear isn't it ? And to argue that a camera is numismatically related - well, it's so obvious I don't think we even need to discuss it.

And Toad - ya know, Peter and I don't just sit here and wait for messages to come in so we can answer them. You sent me your PM at 12:21 yesterday afternoon and I answered it today before 8 AM. I'd say that's pretty reasonable response time. My answer was again - no, it is only to be used to sell numismatically related items, as per the rules.

Now you guys are always free to discuss this kind of thing, but I'll tell you this - when it comes to the rules, member opinion on the subject isn't going to go very far. We set the rules up to make Coin Talk what it is, and that's how we want it. Apparently most of the members like it that way because Coin Talk has become the biggest and most popular, privately owned internet coin forum there is. And I am a strong believer in the old saying - if it aint broke, don't fix it. It obviously isn't broke.

Now Peter has repeatedly stated flat out that he is working on revamping the Open & Auction forums this year in order to make them more beneficial and advantageous to the members of this forum - purely for the benefit of the members. The purpose is to allow you guys to do things here that you have never been able to do before. I'll leave it at that for now.

But until that time comes - things stay as they are. Sorry, end of story.
Yes. I realize it is obvious a camera isn't directly related to coins. Which is why I didn't even bother PMing you back. You said no. What you say goes. Then I read this topic and thought, "I have something to add to that"
I really am not in a huff about this at all.
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:08 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible idea!

We already have some (unnamed to protect the guilty) people who post three-four-five or more times in quick succession just to boost their egos with higher post totals. Let's not make that situation worse.

As others have said, this is Cointalk, not Swaptalk.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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It wasn't me that missed the obvious, it was you that said you don't listen to our opinion so it is you that missed the obvious . . .




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No Toad, I didn't miss a thing for my comment about member opinion was ONLY in regard to RULES, not anything else.
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