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Old 03-27-2009, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1883-cc grade by nci

has any body herd of NCI and are they a good grading outfit, the paper i got with the coin said they were some of the hardest people on grading coins. heres some pictures of the old coin in a fold.
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i was going to send it in for a cross over for NGC
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My recollection is that I heard NCI was pretty consistent but generous in their grading. Since they no longer exist, the NCI paperwork might have some value so don't send it to NGC until you get some responses from others who know more than I do about it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Cant really guess the grade from the pics, but that looks like a nice die clash right on libertys neck. I would check VAM world to see if its one of the die clash VAMs. It seems like every 83' CC I see these days has a die clash.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wasnt this the very first Anacs b4 it was Anacs
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Wasnt this the very first Anacs b4 it was Anacs
No. ANACS was created by the ANA (American Numismatic Association) in 1972 as ANA Certification Service (ANACS) to certify coins due to the large number of counterfeits floating around. Later (1979) they offered grading services, too. ANACS was the first TPG (Third Party Grading service).

NCI came along LONG after that.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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(NCI), an affiliate of Heritage Capital Corporation. Founded in 1984, NCI espouses the grading philosophy of Jim Halperin, set forth in The NCI Grading Guide. It can be characterized as more commercial than that of ANACS, incorporating all factors which the market considers when trading coins, including strike, luster, surface preservation (bagmarks and hairlines) and overall eye appeal (toning). On balance, grades assigned by NCI is usually at the high end of the range of reasonably likely grades.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The guy to ask would be TTonedGems Dan, he plays with all these old slabbers and photo certs......
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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looks like a very nice coin!
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Even though this is a NCI, I am willing to bet it will come back MS-64 or MS-65. Look for photocert-ANACs and PCGS green rattlers.

Actually if human were "slabbed" I would probably be in a "green Rattler".

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Old 03-28-2009, 12:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This is what I was thinking of when I though it was an old anacs
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Old 03-29-2009, 05:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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NCI was active from 1984 to about 1991. During that time they used eight different certificate varieties and combined it with a slab for the coin on at least two of them. I have been able to determine what order the certificates came out in, but you can't tell from the certificate style alone when a certificate was issued. NCI actually used six of the certificate styles at the same time. During the 1980's while they were active NCI was considered to be the bottom tier service. After they closed down ACG took that position. Yet today when NCI coins are encountered the general opinion seems to be that their grading is pretty accurate. I don't know how the coins got better in the years since then.
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Yet today when NCI coins are encountered the general opinion seems to be that their grading is pretty accurate. I don't know how the coins got better in the years since then.
Maybe the rest of them finally "caught up."
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